Progressive NTSC

[lunarfilm]

Hello
I've got a huge Region 1 NTSC DVD collection (I'm from the US), and I have a progressive scan NTSC Region 1 DVD player (Toshiba SD-6200) with component output, and an NTSC TV with progressive scan and component input. Everything was great until the TV (a Toshiba 40H80) died - and the repair would be astronomical. I'm looking for a new TV and found one in a Toshiba 42WH36. It has component input, progressive scan, and 'NTSC playback' - I'm still trying to find out of it's NTSC 4.43 or 3.58. It's the last item that I have a question about. I downloaded the owner's manual, and in several places, it refers to colour problems if an NTSC source is used through the component input. Its workaround is to use the SCART input instead, because the colour correction controls are disabled if you use an NTSC source through the component input (as well as disabling other things, such as the 4:3 viewing aspect ratio). Naturally, my DVD player doesn't have a SCART output, so my first question is, does anybody know of a component to SCART converter cable? The second (and bigger) question is, is anybody familiar with this whole issue of colour problems with an NTSC source going into a component input, and if so, how bad is the colour?
Thanks for your time
Lunarfilm

[djjohnnyb]

As far as I am aware you cant get a component scart adapter as scart doesnt take a component signal. As for the 2 types of NTSC, I bought a TV recently and made sure it stated both in the description (it can be hard to get a description that says this- normally they just say NTSC).

I am quite confident that it will be in colour as if the TV has component inputs, it should accept all NTSC signals as component isnt a PAL standard. If anyone disagrees with this please say as I'm not 100% sure and dont want you to buy a new TV to find it doesnt work!!

[gIzzE]

Toshiba TV sets, as do a lot of other brands, convert RGB to S-video and then back to RGB.
Why? well they do this so you can still use all your controls like colour etc. which can't be done if you go straight in RGB.
The toshiba does not convert component however, so it will go straight in and you will loose colour and hue adjustment, but you should not have a problem anyway.
And the tosh sets will take ntsc 3.58 no problem on any input. However RGB and compnonent is not pal or ntsc it is either 50 or 60Hz.
When you put a progressive signal into the set it will always be in widescreen mode, as the ED 480p signal format is a 16:9 format.

I have not looked at CRT sets for a while, but it may be worth having a read on www.avforums.com as there are some tvs out that will take HD too so maybe worth finding out more info on them.

[anephric]

Right.

You won't find a scart to component adaptor. Component IS a Pal standard.

NTSC Progressive will give you the best, most stable, most colour-stable NTSC image you can get on a CRT. I've never heard anything about 'colour problems' through component... also the disabled 4:3 viewing mode sounds abolutely pooey as well - certainly isn't true with my Tosh. Just turn off the progressive.

I own a Toshiba 36ZP38 and the NTSC progressive picture (through component) is the best I've ever had (on a CRT). The reason the colour controls (tint etc) are disabled when using component is that you don't need them. NTSC needs RGB or component because of its unstable nature.

[anephric]

I only lose the 'tint' adjustment on my tv through component, btw... not 'colour' adjustment.

[gIzzE]

Yeah I was talking crap, I should know that you only loose hue as I am always advising people to go in component on their panny plasma rather than RGB, as you can always keep saturation adjustment with it and the panny is a little oversaturated on the default setting.

[lunarfilm]

Thanks for the quick replies. Here's another: Since I have both a region 1 and a region 2 progressive scan DVD players, and they are NOT crackable (believe me) the output on the Region 1 can be forced to PAL. However, the TV I'm considering has only one component input. In looking for switchers, most of the, under specifications, note NTSC (why it should make a difference in a splitter, I don't know, but that's how much I know about it). I did find a Scancom AVT-5842, which says it handles both NTSC and PAL in it specs (I'm going all PAL with my sources now), but elsewhere I've read where this switcher degrades the signal.
Any ideas?
Thanks again
Lunarfilm

[gIzzE]

The sancom switcher is ok, but only just, on progressive it darkens the image a little and anything higher like 720p or 1080i and it can't handle it.

Order an Audio Authority unit from www.copperbox.com model 1154
It also switches audio and will convert from optical to coaxial etc.

[Freddo]

wouldn't it be easier and possibly cheaper to replace the two players with one multiregion one?