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**butchcvc** · 07-10-2005, 16:36

hi!

i have swap magic 3.6 and a pal slimline ps2.

i obtained a fliptop lid for it instead of the magic switch and its pretty easy to install (and i'm a dummy!)

swap magic takes every game you throw at it except dvd9 / double layer discs. a small percentage (approx 1-2%) of games for the ps2 are dvd9 and there are lists to let you know!

anyway its a must buy, its brilliant!

if you have any questions then ask away!

**Sketcz** · 07-10-2005, 16:39

Easy to use with a slimline PS2? I'm sold! Cheers for the fast answer.

I assume it's clear on a game's box if it's DVD9?

**Siri** · 07-10-2005, 16:42

I don't have one, but I can help out on a couple of points, hopefully:

- From what I remember, it can play most imports, although some of the newer DVD9 games will not work with it (such as God of War and GT4) due to the amount of data the DVD9 has on it.

- The magic switch is a couple of plastic 'clips' that you plug into a couple of the lid holes on the PStwo. it basically fools the PStwo into thinking that it's always shut, just like the old PS and PSone methods.

- Personally, I think the PStwo is better suited for the Swap Magic, due to that the pstwo uses a lid as standard - the old PS2 doesn't take too kindly to the tray being pulled out by force with a slide tool, while there's no such strain on the parts on a pstwo.

I personally own a Gamecube and PSOne with their respective import loaders, so I think the opinons will be the same - it's nice, but you might get a bit peeved with chucking in the boot disk each time you want to start an import game. If you can get past that, it's blissful.

**butchcvc** · 07-10-2005, 16:43

Originally posted by Szczepaniak

Easy to use with a slimline PS2? I'm sold! Cheers for the fast answer.

I assume it's clear on a game's box if it's DVD9?

usually games do have dvd9 on the box, but i recently bought a train simulator game for it and it was dvd9, but didnt say so on the box.

i dont think there are anymore than 5-10 dvd9 games though.

i'm using the black pstwo by the way, im not sure about the silver version.

also you'll need a rgb lead!

**sj33** · 07-10-2005, 16:46

Siri got it right really.

I do hear it's a little easier on the slimline, simply because you can use the magic switch as opposed to opening the machine. I'm not sure if these work on the silver slimline yet though.

Swap Magic does the job fine. DVD9's do not work (though some can be 'patched' to DVD5), and some games do not work with the Swap Magic bearbones, so your required to boot up an extra loader with the Swap Magic, such as CDLoader or CogSwapLoader, in order to get some games to work.... but there's very little you cannot boot in some way or form.

It's no replacement for a modchip though. I ditched the Swap Magic for a DMS4 EZI Pro and could never go back.

**Sketcz** · 07-10-2005, 16:57

Cheers for the info Shakey et al. Luckilly I still have my RGB cable from PS1 which works just fine on the old brick PS2s.

Reckon I might go for the new black slimline model.

**sj33** · 07-10-2005, 16:59

Yay, did a bit of research, found the 'Magic Switch Pro V2' is out... compatible with the silver and ceramic white machines!

You may as well give www.swapmagic3.com a read. And www.sapmagicfix.com has a list of games which require an extra 'step' to boot on Swap Magic.

**lurch996** · 07-10-2005, 17:23

If you're getting disc read errors theres a really simple procedure to follow to sort it. i did tried it on my ps2 and now the old thing runs perfect.

**Balou** · 07-10-2005, 17:24

I have an earlier version of the Swap Magic with slide card for the normal PS2.
My impressions are that it is cumbersome and annoying to use, partly also because sometimes it won?t successfully load and you need to redo the whole process.

It may be worth the trouble if there is one special game that you desperately want to play. However, if you play NTSC games a lot, then a new chip, or a new ntsc console may be a more comfortable solution.

That?s just my thoughts - I gave up on using the Swap Magic some time ago.

**lurch996** · 07-10-2005, 17:29

Originally posted by Balou

I have an earlier version of the Swap Magic with slide card for the normal PS2.
My impressions are that it is cumbersome and annoying to use, partly also because sometimes it won?t successfully load and you need to redo the whole process.

It may be worth the trouble if there is one special game that you desperately want to play. However, if you play NTSC games a lot, then a new chip, or a new ntsc console may be a more comfortable solution.

That?s just my thoughts - I gave up on using the Swap Magic some time ago.

why not buy the flip top lid for the old style ps2 looks easy to fit and cost 12-15 all in.

**Sketcz** · 07-10-2005, 18:08

Originally posted by lurch996

If you're getting disc read errors theres a really simple procedure to follow to sort it. i did tried it on my ps2 and now the old thing runs perfect.

There is? Do tell. I opened it a while ago with a can of "canned air" and cleaned the lense a bit. Fixed it for a while. I think it might just be me using it too much though.

**sj33** · 07-10-2005, 18:10

You might wanna buy a new laser for your machine. I think Divineo still sell them. Means you keep your modded machine at least.

**lurch996** · 07-10-2005, 18:26

There is? Do tell. I opened it a while ago with a can of "canned air" and cleaned the lense a bit. Fixed it for a while. I think it might just be me using it too much though.

That was the procedure

but did you use a cotton bud and water to clean the lens? it worked wonders for me, but I hear that if that doesnt work the laser voltage needs to be adjusted, which is more complicated. heres a link.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/f...read_error.txt

**lurch996** · 07-10-2005, 18:27

also give the whole area around the laser a good clean to stop it from getting dirty quicker.

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