Modified PSII

[kyo_244]

I want to buy a JAP or US PSII and then modify it to play pal games too. My reason being to play all my existing PSI/II Games in glorious 60hz mode. Any easy/cheap solutions?

[vertigo]

Doesn't this go in the ask/consoles section?
PS2 isn't retro yet

[Klatrymadon]

Swap Magic/Flip-top case.

http://www.swapmagic3.com/

Try eBay for both of 'em.

I'm not sure it'll work like you're expecting it to, though. I'm pretty sure your European games will still run in 50hz.

[kyo_244]

Swap Magic/Flip-top case.

http://www.swapmagic3.com/

Try eBay for both of 'em.

I'm not sure it'll work like you're expecting it to, though. I'm pretty sure your European games will still run in 50hz.

I thought an NSTC machine wouldn't play anything at 50hz..?

[kyo_244]

Doesn't this go in the ask/consoles section?
PS2 isn't retro yet

I know but PS1 is! Ant thats the main reason i want a ps2..

[vertigo]

I'm pretty sure the games on Sony machines dictate which speed the machine boots at because they're capable of both, which is why people make an image of their PAL discs and then use a hex editor to change the byte that defines territory before reburning.

[Commander Marklar]

Your 50hz games will still be 50hz though; the software controls the video mode, I don't know of a way you can force it into 60hz. Just swop your PSOne games for the NTSC versions

(unless you change it like ^^ him up there says, didn't know you could do that)

[kyo_244]

I'm pretty sure the games on Sony machines dictate which speed the machine boots at because they're capable of both, which is why people make an image of their PAL discs and then use a hex editor to change the byte that defines territory before reburning.

Maybe I should just stick to ntsc games then?

[sj33]

Some modchips, such as the DMS4, the Matrix, O2 etc can force NTSC/PAL60 on games, but more often than not it just screws up the timings, the speed of the movies... and everything just buggers up.
Stick to proper NTSC software.

[kyo_244]

Cool! Cheers guys!

[vertigo]

Yeh, like he says even if you do switch it either by forcing hardware or by hex editing the right byte, you're still not guaranteed that things like movies or coding that's very timing specific and needed fixing for PAL versions will work properly. Of course, if Sony had pulled their finger out and offered proper 60Hz modes for PAL machines in the first place, none of this would have happened

[sj33]

SquareEnix games are a good example, and contrary to popular belief, it's not really SquareEnix Europes fault. If the original developers had taken PAL support into account during development, there wouldn't be problems such as audio desync, voice desync and movies running too fast when forced int 60hz.

[vertigo]

Just the same as Final Fantasy 3 US doesn't work properly in 50Hz, but you don't find that out until the ending Which is hilarious, obviously.
And US Secret of Mana's intro crashes slightly on a PAL console in 50Hz, but that's not really as bad as FF3.

[Klatrymadon]

PS2s can handle both 60hz and 50hz, as someone else mentioned, but is the same true of the PS1 hardware? Whenever I try to run NTSC PS1 games on a PAL PS2 via the Breaker Pro disc, there are borders that consume about 30% of the screen.

Thankfully, I have a US PS1 lying around, too. :P

[Rsdio]

PS2s can handle both 60hz and 50hz, as someone else mentioned, but is the same true of the PS1 hardware?

I had a modded slimline PAL PSOne and it always output in 60hz for NTSC games. The chip was only like a fiver or something as well.