Still at a loss....(HDTV)

[gIzzE]

Hey Gizze, may i ask, do you know the screen refresh rate that is spoken about to do with motion blur, is it good with the panny? Thank you.

Forgot to say, there is no motion blur on the Panny plasma.

I have a Panny 26" LCD in the kitchen and to be honest there is very little on that either, the LCDs are gtting alot better now, but still got a long way to go, they are as good as most companies plasmas, but Panasonic and Fujitsu have moved plasma to a whole new level, and Pioneer is not far behind. But don't worry about motion blur, really is a non issue.

[gIzzE]

The Panasonics aren't HD though, they're only 1024 pixels wide - minimum for HD is 1280. No idea why a company as big as Panasonic would struggle to hit the HD minimum.

The Samsungs are the best I've seen for LCD, and Pioneer make great plasma sets.

This is a good demo and I used this to shut my gobby brother up the other day.
He has the 32" Samsung LCD, he was banging on about how much better it was than my Panasonic plasma so we did a test.

We fed his LCD with hdmi from my Crystalio 2 with various sources from SDI modded DVD, Sky HD and true HD from a PixelMagixSystems Media Box.
Now we fed my Plasma with that same material, but using S-Video out of the sources and then RGBhv back to my screen, so true HD material (maily 1080i, but some 720p) but output over S at 720x480i before getting to the scaler.
The Panny won everytime, far more pleasing to look at, then when we had it hooked up the same there was no contest.
Not bad for a screen nearly 4x the size.
He has now got himself a 42PHD8 and sold the Samsung to Dad!

[ShadowDancer]

Thank you (hiya angel!)

Thanks so much gizze, just read it all again, i hope it's going to be ok to PM you when i'm too dumb to get it right! (just playing) thank you again for your time.

[spinpug666]

I've had my Panny TH-42PX60B now for about a week, and i'm completely in love with it.
I can't fault it at all. I tried my 3.1digi camera thru the front composite and there's no banding on red edges etc, as i expected it to be quite poor but its great.

With better signal inputs (hdmi, Component, RGB) it's jaw dropping! And the built in digital tuner is so so much better than those silly ?30 boxes.

[andrewfee]

The Panasonics aren't HD though, they're only 1024 pixels wide - minimum for HD is 1280. No idea why a company as big as Panasonic would struggle to hit the HD minimum.

Barely any difference at all - vertical resolution is more important than horizontal resolution, and there will be less difference on an actual plasma, as it's (effectively) being optically stretched back into the correct ratio, rather than digitally stretched which softens the image.

The Samsungs are the best I've seen for LCD, and Pioneer make great plasma sets.

You should check out Sony - they're a big step ahead of Samsung for image quality.

[Kotatsu Neko]

Barely any difference at all - vertical resolution is more important than horizontal resolution, and there will be less difference on an actual plasma, as it's (effectively) being optically stretched back into the correct ratio, rather than digitally stretched which softens the image.


You should check out Sony - they're a big step ahead of Samsung for image quality.

With LCD, native is everything. I wouldn't want any digital stretching at all. 360 outputs at 1280x720, so that's the exact resolution I would want from a panel. I don't understand why there is so much variation in screen resolutions, makes no sense to me. 1024 wide simply isn't enough.

I wouldn't touch a Sony product with a barge pole frankly. I've had Sony TVs in the past and they've been total garbage. Unreliable, poorly built, and vastly over priced. Not even that pretty either, the Sony LCDs I've seen have been nasty looking things.

[andrewfee]

With LCD, native is everything. I wouldn't want any digital stretching at all. 360 outputs at 1280x720, so that's the exact resolution I would want from a panel. I don't understand why there is so much variation in screen resolutions, makes no sense to me. 1024 wide simply isn't enough.

I wouldn't touch a Sony product with a barge pole frankly. I've had Sony TVs in the past and they've been total garbage. Unreliable, poorly built, and vastly over priced. Not even that pretty either, the Sony LCDs I've seen have been nasty looking things.

I've been avoiding Sony displays for a long time too, but they're probably the best LCDs out there right now.

There's no stretching, just compression resulting in a pretty minor resolution loss. It will probably look better than having to be scaled up to 1366x768 to be honest - you won't get 1:1 mapping from a 360 on a current LCD.

The reason plasmas have lower resolutions is because it's harder to make their pixels small enough. 99% of what you put into any TV isn't going to be native, so it's really not a concern. (a year ago I would have argued strongly for 1280x720 native, but from experience, it wouldn't matter.