NAT settings for Live

[Hartley Hare]

Would switching from wireless to wired affect my nat settings for live. Tried to chat and set up a game on live lastnight and nothing. Tested xbox live and my settings all worked and it stated that my NAT asettings are moderate??

Not been on live for a long time but the only thing I have changed is this????

Any advice guys, my router is the apple airport extreme but I have used this for two years now with no trouble until lastnight.

[ShadowmanUK]

Hi,

Take a look on my site for help in resolving your NAT issue

https://www.xboxlivetheguide.co.uk

[MarioMark]

Would switching from wireless to wired affect my nat settings for live. Tried to chat and set up a game on live lastnight and nothing. Tested xbox live and my settings all worked and it stated that my NAT asettings are moderate??

Not been on live for a long time but the only thing I have changed is this????

Any advice guys, my router is the apple airport extreme but I have used this for two years now with no trouble until lastnight.

The best thing to do is update/downgrade your firmware. Check xbox.com for the correct firmware list for you router.

[Hartley Hare]

Probelm sorted guys, thanks for the kind help

[Stakers]

Sorry to drag this thread up from the dead but this hasn't been an issue till the GoW update.
I'm using Linksys WRT54G/ NTL 4mb with a wired connection and can only get STRICT NAT. I've opened the ports for Live, I've tried enabling/disabling UPnP. Tne guide linked above is very good but I don't know how to go about upgrading firmware to
3.01.3, 3.03.6
(shown as the compatible firmware on Xbox.com) The Linksys website only seems to let me d/l 4.1 or something and even then I only get
Update Are Failed. Has anyone got a similar setup that they can talk me through or just some general pointers. Ta.

[Stakers]

All sorted now, big thanks to Shadowman and the work he has done on putting the best website for Live problems on the net. Check it out

http://www.xboxlivetheguide.co.uk/

[MJ]

No matter what I try I cannot get an open NAT with my Linksys WRT54GS v5.1 and the 360 assigned a static IP. I can only get an open NAT with automatic settings.

http://forums.xbox.com/8361228/ShowPost.aspx

I've tried:

• http://www.xboxlivetheguide.co.uk
• http://www.portforward.com
• http://live.tommccann.net

[ShadowmanUK]

MJ,

I dont come here that often, so many forums so little time.

We've got a forum over at xboxlivetheguide now. If you post all your details there we will try to help out

Cheers

[Chadruharazzeb]

Listen to the guy. I checked that site out earlier and I wish I knew about it a month ago when I got my 360.

It's excellent, nice one Shadowman.

[MJ]

MJ,

I dont come here that often, so many forums so little time.

We've got a forum over at xboxlivetheguide now. If you post all your details there we will try to help out

Cheers

Hello!

I'm finding this topic very similar to my problems:

http://www.xboxlivetheguide.co.uk/News/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=37

Mine is always open with automatic settings, but if I use a static IP with port forwarding I only get an open NAT after I reboot the router, then it only stays open for two Live tests and goes to moderate from the third test onwards.

I wouldn't mind if I didn't have the strange problem of the 360 breaking our internet connection with downloads and updates, which requires a router reboot to fix:

http://ntsc-uk.domino.org/showthread.php?t=63907

[ShadowmanUK]

So if its open with automatic settings, cant you leave it like that?

I'd recommend getting the latest version of your firmware before trying anything else.

See if UPnP=on and Xbox=auto works. If not, set it up like Stakers on the thread on my forum

Cheers

[MJ]

So if its open with automatic settings, cant you leave it like that?

I'd recommend getting the latest version of your firmware before trying anything else.

See if UPnP=on and Xbox=auto works. If not, set it up like Stakers on the thread on my forum

I don't mind using automatic settings, but I thought I would try a static IP to see if it would stop the problem of the 360 breaking the internet connection when it comes to updates and Marketplace downloads.

I've got the latest firmware.

UPnP is on, which gives me an open NAT with the 360 set to automatic, but if I turn it off I only get a moderate NAT.

[MJ]

I've just come back to this to see if I could get an open NAT with manual settings because I would like to turn UPnP off so I've got more control over my ports but still no joy. Never mind.

[andrewfee]

You should be able to have an Open NAT without using UPnP no problem. While I do have it enabled (I don't know what the PS3 ports are) it works fine if I disable it as I've made sure everything is set up correctly.

One of the main problems is that not everyone understands networking (which is fair enough) but many people/guides do things differently without explaining why, and each router has a different setup page, which can make it all very confusing. You need to basically think of an IP address as the "name" for that device on the network.

My setup is probably quite different from most, as I have a standard "naming" scheme for all my IP addresses to keep things simple:

• My router is 192.168.1.100
• Computers are in the .1-10 range
• Consoles / other devices are .11-20
• DHCP is 21-30. (eg if someone else brings their laptop round, it'll be given one of them temporarily)
• Servers are 192.168.1.99 and work backwards, as I add more. (eg my NAS is .99, the print server is .98 etc)

So what you want to do is plan out your "naming" scheme for the network. It might simply be that you want everything to be 192.168.1.2 onwards (most routers default to 192.168.1.1) or have things categorised like I have. Either way, if you are doing that, you need to make sure the numbers DHCP is allowed to assign is outside that range of static IP addresses to avoid IP conflicts that will force a device to change its IP. So if you only have a couple of devices, you might want DHCP to start at 192.168.1.10, or if you have a lot if could be .30 etc. (30 probably leaves more than enough space for static IPs with most people)

The range of IPs DHCP will use is normally on the router's general configuration page:


With my naming decided, I want the 360 to be .11, so with my router at 192.168.1.100, this is what the settings would be:

Ignore that it says "automatic" next to the settings - they're exactly the same as manual ones would be, but my router lets me set up reserved IP addresses which I use instead. It's basically the same thing as static IPs, only it's handled by the router rather than the device.

With the 360 set properly, and the router set up to avoid IP conflicts, port forwarding should be easy enough.

The 360's ports are 88 UDP, 3074 TCP & UDP, forwarded to 192.168.1.11:

(oops, just realised I've left the example forwards there as well, need to clear that)

You may need to turn off the Xbox 360, reboot the router (make sure you wait until it has finished rebooting) and then turn the 360 back on, before the changes take effect.

If it is all set up correctly, and still isn't working, I'd make sure that the router is running the latest firmware, perform a factory reset, then set it all up again. If it's still not working after that, it's pretty safe to say your router is faulty.

For what it's worth, this is a WRT54G v1.1 I've got. I'm now using a custom firmware on it, but had no problems with the official Linksys one either. I hope that helped.

[MJ]

I've tried all the things you've suggested in the past and cannot get better than a moderate NAT with manual settings and following all advice/guides to the letter. I'm not upgrading the firmware again because any version I've tried later than what's on there now doesn't work with Live at all (the router is a WRT54GS v5.1). I'll just have to live with automatic settings.