Many people don't know what a sub is meant to sound like. They think that it should make a sound like a rumble, rather than deep warm bass sound that doesn't sound separate from the rest of the system.
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Yeah that's the fellows, and to be fair to B&O we've only ever used the Hi-Fi once to try it out and that was using an iPod connected via a Jack Plug thingy.Originally posted by CMcK View PostI take it you have the Harmon Kardon developed Apple Pro Speakers for the iMac?
They do sound really good. I bought a set for my folks and I was amazed at how good they sounded. I've never heard any other computer speakers that got close.
I was watching the HK Special Edition DVD of 2046 on the TV the other day and it looks and sounds amazing. I've recently just got back into collecting Criterion DVDs too (if anyone's selling any
) and it's just like being at the cinema watching those on it, most of them are mono though and I imagine that renders the cyber-traffic-cones useless?
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apples g4 cube came with possibly the best set of speakers ever (to be bundled with a computer)
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That looks like a hairdressers, not a computer desk. lolComment
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Well i work for B & O in the cheshire area and to be honest we see very few footballers! You're correct, most of our customers are rich, lawyers, dentists, doctors etc but not all of them have more money than sense.B&O survive on rich people with more mony than sense. I work in the chesire rich belt... ManU footballers etc....
People are too quick to judge B & O products by price alone without looking at how the stuff is made.
Anyone wear spectacles? Had anti reflective coating put on them? Must cost at least ?40 extra. B & O put 3 layers of anti reflective coating on each side of the glass that covers the screen of LCD/Plasma TV's. Now imagine how much thats costs when you have TV's upwards of 40"
I could go on all day but don't get me wrong, it is expensive, you could buy better for your money, but it wouldn't look as good and wouldn't be as simple to use.
Anyway back on topic i'm very sceptical regarding anything that is supposed to make you speakers sound better, unless you've got a mega audiophile setup i can't see the human ear being able to pickup such a subtle difference. And don't get me started on speaker cable!!Comment
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i'm not gonna say **** about the company i work for, they make some truly outstanding products, really innovative stuff... look for the new lab9 speakers and check out how they do in recent magazine tests to see just how b&o are managing to stick 2 fingers up at the "for more money than sense" brigade.
form and function, beautifully designed well thought out products which are really really simple to use... right now i'm listening to pendulum's 'slam' at just shy of 100db and this system's been running for over 2.5 hours now whilst i re-arrange the store layout and it sounds stunning and hasn't missed a single beat. 2 single speakers with 5000watts between them and a bit of cable running to the player, simple as. no ****ing around with amps the size of small cars, just plonk your speakers down, let them acoustically tune themselves to the room your in then press play and enjoy, revel in the fact that the entire process took no more than 10 minutes total and you're getting the best possible sound every single time and it looks as stunning as it sounds.Comment
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One of the better options for speakers/stands on hard floors are Clearlight RDC cones seen here http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Clearlight%20Audio.htm . They're not cheap but in a high quality system offer excellent value for money as they genuinely improve sound quality thanks to the special compound which is widely regarded as one of the best vibration dampners ever developed. It's a little known fact but placing 3 spikes/cones under each hi-fi component also improves sound quality by helping combat mechanical vibrations and those on a budget can gain similar results by using squash balls cut in half.Comment
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Not the greatest example. Anti reflective coating costs naff all. It's just expensive on glasses as Opticians have to make their money back on the eye tests which they lose huge amounts on.Originally posted by mr_fantazmo View PostComment
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For ?5,000 I'd expect nothing less tbh. Personally I'd rather spend ?5,000 on an amp and floorstanders and have a huge amount more functionality (including the ability to tune the sound to the room).Originally posted by Crisp_Rapper View PostComment
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obviously audio (as with everything in this world) divides opinion. personally i'd always take the cleaner lines and speakers i'd actually enjoy seeing in my room (and possibly be a statement?) over stacks of boxes and ridiculous sized aesthetically challenged 'traditional' speakers.
that said i currently have traditional speakers as my fronts and some lovely(ish) mordaunt shorts as the rest of my surround setup just in case you think i'm deliberately being a dick here.Comment
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Wrong!Originally posted by Brats View Post
MAR coatings are a bitch to produce and require some kerazy equipment to manufacture it properly. The coatings have to be applied in a dust free vacuum.
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As for the fact they are expensive because sight tests lose loads of money. Where'd you pull that from?, your average optometrist costs under £40 an hour and most sight tests cost approx £1 per minute of professional time.Comment
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In my house, the spikes are more to do with sound isolation to stop it travelling along the floor. If they are sat on the floor, next door can hear them. If they are on spikes, they can't. Simple. If they were on concrete slabs it would be even better (i.e. louder).Originally posted by mr_fantazmo View PostComment
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I have mordaunt short floorstanders, 26yrs old, I love them
I doubt I could get a decent replacement for under £500 but you never know, not anywhere near the build quality anyway
( I use plain spikes on concrete marble slab things, I've thought about some kind of sorbothane underneath) my floorboards still wobble and fart though, but only at high volumes, its an old houseLast edited by kernow; 23-07-2007, 18:55.Comment
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I agree, getting the speaker of the ground will stop the bass travelling through the floor. I used to have a big pair of floorstanders on 2 concrete slabs for the same reason. However i still stand by what i said earlier, i think most people would struggle to hear a difference in sound quality.In my house, the spikes are more to do with sound isolation to stop it travelling along the floor. If they are sat on the floor, next door can hear them. If they are on spikes, they can't. Simple. If they were on concrete slabs it would be even better (i.e. louder).Comment
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The principle behind how floor spikes improve sound quality is relatively straight-forward and holds true for all systems, regardless of cost. A speaker produces a set amount of mechanical energy pre-determined by the amplifier driving it, energy intended to drive the tweeters and woofers and so produce sound. If any of that energy is somehow converted into kinetic energy - ie vibration - then sound quality will invariably suffer as less energy than desired is driving the tweeters and woofers. Floor spikes and brackets help combat this.Originally posted by mr_fantazmo View Post
As for speaker cable, it's an integral part of a system and, along with interconnects and mains cables, are as important as the components themselves. I've around ?5K worth of cables in my system and if I replaced them with, say, ?20 worth of cables and plugs, I'd likely experience around a 25% drop in performance.Comment
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