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    #16
    Bizarre!

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      #17
      I have never heard of having to reactivate over the phone for changing the hard drive - this is a new thing they've brought in with Vista I assume?

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        #18
        There was definately something to do with this in XP too, although the criteria for having to call MS may have changed.

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          #19
          Yup its a new thing they have for Vista.

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            #20
            XP SP1 onwards.

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              #21
              I changed some RAM and a graphics card and I had to call microsoft I have an oem version.
              I

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                #22
                I changed some RAM and a graphics card and I had to call microsoft I have an oem version.
                I had to be put through to an operator as the phone pad verification method did not work, all they asked was how many computers my copy of vista was being used on.

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                  #23
                  You're allowed to change components even on OEM, it's just that changing too many things too many times kicks in the activation. They will reactivate an OEM as long as the motherboard is the same (unsure about HDD). You do have to be smart and say you had the machine built for you though - that's what OEM versions are for.

                  I had it kick in once when I enabled my onboard wifi! Took a 2 min phone call though, a nice lady sorted it out.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Shakey_Jake33 View Post
                    They will reactivate an OEM as long as the motherboard is the same (unsure about HDD). You do have to be smart and say you had the machine built for you though - that's what OEM versions are for.
                    Is this a tightening up on Vista???

                    I've worked my way through a couple of motherboards with my OEM copy of XP and as long as I've phoned the helpline the've been fine about reactivating it.

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                      #25
                      Go for the 32 bit version of the operating system unless you really need to work on 64 bit applications as the 64 bit version hogs ram like nobody's business and isn't really designed for gaming either.

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                        #26
                        I decided to go 32-bit, as I heard too many stories about computability issues. Plus I really want to use transcode360, which doesn't work on 64-bit Vista.

                        New PC has been ordered now - Core 2 Quad 2.6ghz, 4gb RAM, GeForce 8800GTX, 10,000 RPM 150gb boot, 7,200 RPM 750gb data, and all in a beautiful Shuttle P2 case.

                        Should churn through transcoding nicely and be home in time for tea and a game of Crysis.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mofoman View Post
                          Go for the 32 bit version of the operating system unless you really need to work on 64 bit applications as the 64 bit version hogs ram like nobody's business and isn't really designed for gaming either.
                          Sorry, not true.

                          Originally posted by Kotatsu Neko
                          I decided to go 32-bit, as I heard too many stories about computability issues. Plus I really want to use transcode360, which doesn't work on 64-bit Vista.

                          New PC has been ordered now - Core 2 Quad 2.6ghz, 4gb RAM, GeForce 8800GTX, 10,000 RPM 150gb boot, 7,200 RPM 750gb data, and all in a beautiful Shuttle P2 case.

                          Should churn through transcoding nicely and be home in time for tea and a game of Crysis.
                          Fair enough, however you should note that you won't be able to use all that RAM you've bought due to the limitations of 32-bit addressing. After your hardware has been assigned memory addresses, you'll be left with about 3/3.2gb usable.

                          The stories about compatability issues are mostly just that though, stories. Also, I had a quick look at the website for that transcode360 thingy you mentioned; seems that the beta version for Vista does work on 64-bit, however you have to open the firewall port(s) it uses manually due to the firewall helper application not working.



                          I have removed the helper for opening the ports on your firewall until I can get it working with 64 bit windows and it stops crashing the installer, for now if you are running Vista for 32 bit you will need to click the link in your start menu to open the ports required for T360, for 64 bit Vista you will need to do this manually. The port required for T360 is 1401 and ensure Transcode306.exe and Transcode360Tray.exe to the allowed applications.
                          On a slightly different note, you'll be pretty chuffed with that hardware! Recently built myself a new PC using a very similar spec (Q6600, 4GB, 8800GTS) and it is very fast Quad core is brilliant for multitasking. Hope you can fit that monster GTX graphics card in your shuttle case though! Hehe.

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                            #28
                            Totally agree about the quad core. Not really a PC Gamer myself but they're awesome processors for running any kind of virtualisation software!

                            Should be a nice bit of kit there Kotatsu

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