PS3 Blu-Ray on a non-1080p LCD - issues?

[TonyDA]

I've just ordered a Panasonic 32" Viera LCD screen. It will display upto a 1080i resolution, but not 1080p. I've just read on another forum that some people have experience a judder when playing blu-ray films through a PS3 on similar sets. Apparently it's something to do with the TV converting down from the 1080p signal on the BR disc?

Curious really, as I was intending to get a PS3 at some point in the near future, but what are people playing their blu-rays/ps3s on? Can anyone with a similar set (say, 32" non-1080p) give me their thought on BR playback through a PS3?

Thanks.

[Daragon]

Apparently, 1080i doesn't display blu-ray properly or something like that on a 32". I know it sounds weird and I didn't quite understand it myself, but there's meant to be some kind of issue. I've not seen anything wrong with it myself, although the blu-ray trailers on the PSN store seem "off" for the most part and don't look too dis-similar to standard dvd.

[TonyDA]

So is the solution to show the image at 720p or not bother at all? It's making the idea of BR on a 32" screen sound pointless, to be honest.

[Daragon]

720p is going to be it for anything less than 40". I don't believe it personally, but it's meant to be true.

[teddymeow]

I was running PS3 through a 32" Sharp Aquos at 1080i and only seemed to encounter one problem which was some nasty colour banding (mostly noticable on the green rating screen).

I'm not getting the same issue on my new Sony but whether that has anything to do with 1080i/p I wouldn't know.

[Kotatsu Neko]

32" LCDs are rarely 1080p native. Just run it in 720p, and you'll get a much cleaner image.

[Pavey]

I have two 32" Panasonic Viera's and the picture is mind blowing (IMO).

I think what you may have read is that 1080p is not supposed to be that noticeable on a 32 " screen, or anything up to 40".

You wont be disappointed mate with the PS3 and a Viera.

[Pavey]

32" LCDs are rarely 1080p native. Just run it in 720p, and you'll get a much cleaner image.

Now see i run mine in 1080i, but can't tell the difference between that and 720p.

[kernow]

720p is more lines!

I have a ps3 and a viera, lovely. But I don't watch blu ray hehe, it'll downscale to 720p anyway right. When I did watch my free casino royale it was in 480P as the downscaling wasn't in the firmware at the time.

[Kotatsu Neko]

Now see i run mine in 1080i, but can't tell the difference between that and 720p.

People get too hung up on 1080p and 1080i. All that matters is the native resolution of the panel, and with 32" screens that is nearly always 1366x768, or 1280x720. There may be one or two which have the full 1920x1080 resolution, but at a normal viewing distance on such a small screen the difference would be near impossible to see.

In short, just because a panel will accept a high resolution input does not mean it will display that, - it will scale the image down to fit. I'd sooner let the PS3 do that and output a nice, clean 720p signal than let the super cheap scaler in a TV handle not only de-interlacing, but also scaling.

[sj33]

Most TV's actually downscale much better than upscale (to 1366x768), though I certainly agree than on a 1366x768 screen, it's not worth making a big deal about.

I have my PS3 set to Auto, so Blu-Ray films will output at 1080i on my 32" Bravia (those of you with a PS3 will know it auto detects the supported resolutions of your telly), works fine. Probably looks the same in 720p, but no point messing with it when it works.
There should be no reason for 1080i to 'judder', unless the TV is just really bad at handling 1080i. Unless we're talking the usual film judder from converting 24Hz to 60Hz, which is a different issue altogether.

[buster_broon]

looks fine on my 32wlt68

i've got it connected via HDMI, so had no issues with green screen or anything like that

[Soi]

The most ironic thing about 1080p native tellies is that pretty much all of them will scale a 1080p signal because of overscan. If there is 5% overscan, then a native 1080pTV will be scaling the image by 5%... For not scaling, there needs to be 1:1 pixel mapping.

I don't have much of a point, except to say that the resolution of the telly is less inportant to how the picture will look than the quality of the telly.

[sj33]

Anyone splashing so much money on a 1080p TV should certainly make sure it can do 1080p 1:1 without overscan... it's normally called something like Full Scan, Exact Scan or whatever (the fact that this is marketed as a 'feature' is criminal). The 1080p Bravia's do it, and the 50" Samsung andrewfee reviewed has it I think.

But I do certainly agree that resolution is secondary.

[eASY aDDICT]

Shakey has it spot on..

The judder that you will read about and is quite apparent in certain blu ray films is the 24hz - 60hz issue.

This is complicated to explain and you need to put up with it!!!