S video on wii problem

[baad bwoy]

Hi
I Just bought myself a new wii its a US NTSC model, having set it up on my 28 inch panasonic sdtv and plugged the Blaze svideo cable bought from an ebay seller, Ive found that I cant get a picture, not sure what the problem is.

I can get a picture using composite though which obviously isnt too good.
And also am able to hook up my laptop to the tv via svideo without any problem.

Is there something Im doing wrong?

[Bort]

If you were just getting a black and white image then you would have to switch to the specific S-Video channel.

Since you aren't getting a picture it sounds like it could be the cable.

[MattyD]

I believe S-Video cables have to be specific for NTSC or PAL machines because of differences in the colour encoding. If you bought the cable from a UK seller it's almost certainly a PAL cable rather than NTSC, so would be wired up for RGB, which the NTSC machines do not support.

[baad bwoy]

The one I bought spoke of being specifically for an ntsc wii, wonder if my telly might somehow not be compatible, though it does do 60hz, and run the laptop via s video.

[egparadigm]

Just write to the seller and tell them the thing is faulty and you want a refund. Also, do follow up on the region of the cable...

I bought a cheap PS2 RGB cable earlier this year from a shop and the damn thing didn't even support RGB. I spent days wandering if I was mad and eventually bought another cable and it worked straight off.

[JamesS]

There aren't different regions of Wii svideo lead, as the PAL Wii simply does doesn't do svideo. So any Wii svideo lead you get should work fine on an NTSC machine.

[MattyD]

It sounds like it might be your telly then Bad Bwoy. IIRC then some PAL tellies can only accept RGB through their S-Video sockets. PC video outputs also use RGB (this is what most monitors use after all) so that could explain why it can accept the laptop but not your Wii. What make and model is your TV?

[Brad]

That makes no sense. How can a TV accept RGB though an S-Video socket? That couldn't possibly work could it? Also, S-Video is an international standard supporting 480i and 576i. You just need the minimum 4 pins to be wired up right.

[J0e Musashi]

RGB cannot be accepted via S-VHS. It's not possible. The Wii is set to SDTV mode right? It must be a faulty cable otherwise.

[smouty]

Guys, I've never read a post more full of errors and mistakes.
S-vid/S-vhs? RGB via s-vid?

I guess everyone should read the NTSC TV guide

Just a reminder - S-vid is just one step up from composite in the quality stakes with only RF below that.
RF has the video signal overlaid on a higher frequency carrier for transmission though the airwaves.
Composite is the video signal without the carrier and s-vid is the composite video signal split into the Y/C (colour and brightness) parts.

[Baseley09]

Sorry to nerd on, although its commonly accepted to term Seperate Video as S-VHS, infact this is wrong as S-VHS is a derivitive of the VHS format brought out by JVC.

[MattyD]

Seems I misconstrued something I'd read about S-Video using the same pins on video outputs as RGB. I added 2 + 2 and got 5

[baad bwoy]

Got this reply when asking for a refund,

"Thank you for your email regarding the s-video cable you recently
purchased. I'm sorry to hear that you have been unable to get it to work
with your NTSC Wii.

The item was opened so that it could be tested before it was put up for
sale. It was tested against another s-video cable.

After taking technical advice on this matter, I am informed that it is
possible that your PAL TV will not accept s-video at 60hz (the USA
frequency, as some TV's will not accept s-video at 60hz) and that you
should try it with a different TV, as if this is the case, you would
experience the same problem in the future.

If after testing using a different TV, you still experience problems,
please return the cable, in it's original condition, with the original
packaging, and I will make the refund after its safe arrival.

My technical advisor suggested that I mention to you that it would be
pointless for you to spend money on an RGB cable as an NTSC Wii does not
output it, like a European/UK Wii has no S-video. He sent me the
following link which he thought you might find useful:

http://nfggames.com/wiki/doku.php?id=av:wii_multi_av_pinout

He also suggested that you could, to avoid possible future frustration,
non-destructively, test the cable with a multi-meter to avoid returning
the cable, only to find that it is a problem with your TV.

I would be grateful if you would advise me as to your progress with this
matter and also let me know if you are returning the cable. Thank you.

I hope this helps.

If I can be of further assistance, please contact me again"

My telly definitely outputs at 60hz through the rgb connection, so is it possible that my s video connection will only do 50hz?

Might it be worth getting something like this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Scart-Adapter-Switchable-Plug-Socket/dp/B00077DC6A/ref=sr_1_9/202-4359744-7064616?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1191791656&sr=8-9

and plug it through the rgb input on the tv?

[egparadigm]

Wouldn't you expect to get a black and white picture if your s-video didn't accept 60hz?

Also, have you put your TV onto the Y/C channel? I know you said you used your PC on there, so probably not of any help.

Which, come to think of it - why don't you set your PC to output at 60hz and plug into your TV?

[baad bwoy]

not sure how to put my telly into Y/C channel though following your suggestion, I just checked the display output of my laptop and it states in display settings
"refresh rate 60hz"
so I guess the cable must be faulty despite what the guy seller seems to be saying.
Will email him again.
thanks for the replys guys