Another router question.....

[dannywhac]

Well, decided I'd buy meself a router over the weekend - and I'm no better than a 3 year old at setting up routers (and thats prob. doing a diservice to 3 year olds....).

Basically, I've got a usb adsl modem I use to hook up to t'net, and a router without a built in modem, but with an WAN port at the back to hook up to a modem.
I've tried just hooking the PC up to one of the ethernet ports on the router - this allows me to acces the router settings, but then I can't access the net via my modem - seems tha the router decides it should be through it's WAN port?
So, then I hooked up the PC's ethernet to the WAN port on the router - this stopped me being able to access the router settings, but allowed access to the net via my pc and my 360 (which was plugged into one of the ethernet ports on the router). Everything seemed fine (PC net access was fine, 360's net access also fine), but the 360 couldn't browse files on me PC (and I'd enabled file sharing in networks and MP) - it failed at the PC connect test (IP n everything else was ok - DMZ rules applied for the 360).
I then tried a network bridge by having the above paragraph's set-up with the addition of an extra ethernet connection from the PC that access's the net via the modem to one of the routers ethernet ports.....and again no file sharing joy.....

To cut a long story short - could anyone help me - pretty purlease?

[dannywhac]

Anyone?

[babs]

From the sounds of it your router doesn't have a modem in it if it has a WAN port with ethernet (rj45) presentation.

What you need is either

a) a router with built in modem. The WAN port on these is the smaller RJ11 style, the kind which goes into your USB modem at present, from the filter you have plugged into the phone point. This then removes the need for a USB modem at all.

or...

b) A modem with ethernet (effectively a single port modem router). The ethernet from this could be plugged into the WAN port on the router you currently have.

I'm a bit confused as to your setup now. Would I be right in saying that the setup above which had you getting your PC was like this? PC has USB modem attached via USB, ethernet from PC to WAN port on router, ethernet from 360 to ethernet port on router.

If so it makes a little more sense, because whatever's connected to the WAN port on the router is treated as the internet gateway, but if your PC was attached to another ethernet port on the router, the router would be telling your PC to go to the internet via the WAN port, and of course there's nothing connected to it...

I'm not sure if you're going to get it to work with what you have, but if you can I think you'd be best off like this.


USB Modem connects to PC via USB. All software firewalls turned off for now.
PC connected to router's WAN port via ethernet.
Network bridge created on PC between USB and ethernet connections.
360 (and whatever else) connected to normal ethernet ports on the router.

In theory that could/should work, but the 360 might have a bit of a funny five minutes, you may need to sort out some port forwarding on the router to get the tests working. The main problem you might get is with having the PC being treated as the gateway, rather than a regular network device.

[eastyy]

will add my question to this topic

i want to get a router for my consoles at the moment i have a pc with ethernet card that i currently hook my consoles up to

to connect to the net i am using a usb wireless thing

what router should i get ?

[ascender]

What Babs said.

What's the exact name and model of the router you bought?

Eastyy - Can you confirm if you're on ADSL or Cable?

[eastyy]

not sure its a wireless thing that gets a signal from a aerial/transmitter/reciever on our roof

[dannywhac]

Cheers for the replies - just got a cheapy Sweex LW050UKv2 from me local pc shop.....thinking maybe I should swap for one with a built in modem after the advice.....ta anyway!

[babs]

Eastyy's on 3G if memory serves from IRC a while ago. If you get a router Eastyy you'll have to do what I mentioned above about bridging connections, and then configuring the router to point at your PC as the gateway.

It's possible but might be awkward.