running a US wii on tv problems

[boxhead]

Hello, I'm sorry to be a pain!

I got a u/ntsc wii yesterday and I have a samsung hd lcd tv but the leads that come with the machine don't seem to allow me to get anything but a grainy black and white picture!

There are tons inputs available on the back of the telly but no combination seems to get me anywhere.

My question is: what do i need to get it running in colour?
would a scart block work? what about an rgb wii scart lead (I assume they make them)
would a pal scart lead work fine with an ntsc machine?


thanks guys...

[EvilBoris]

If you've got a HD LCD tv you should really be using component leads (RED GREEN BLUE) this will give you access to the progressive scan options and sort out your colour problem.

[bootmonster]

Use the yellow connector on the SIDE of the telly. Most HD panels support an NTSC signal over composite, mine definitely does and I'm using the same setup as you.

[EvilBoris]

Apart from that will give you the most rancid picture you can possibly get, only made worse by using it on an LCD. You wanna be using an RGB scart or ideally component.

[bootmonster]

RGB doesn't work on NTSC Wiis though...

[egparadigm]

What cable are you actually using?

Composite is yellow (for video), red and white (for audio left/right). This is the default cable that comes with the console.

Component is the best video connection for the Wii and should work with your HDTV. That has three seperate video leads - blue, red and green - as well as the audio left and right.

Don't buy an RGB scart lead for your Wii as US/NTSC Wii's don't support it. Likewise, European/PAL Wii's do not support S-video.

[EvilBoris]

RGB doesn't work on NTSC Wiis though...

Component 480p it is then.
THough I'd rather take no picture than a composite one on an LCD

[boxhead]

ok, so my only real option is to use the leads that come with the machine?

I have attempted the blue, green and red connection option but still only get a black and white image. there isn't a yellow video input on the back of my tv at all.

[boxhead]

so... ok. I get it now. I need to buy and rgb cable? does anyone know how easily available these are and how much they cost?

[Bort]

You need to buy a component cable. An RGB cable won't work on a American Wii.

You can buy an official one or third party ones.
Game do official ones for 20£ and third party ones for 10£.

Look around and you should find a better deal.

[boxhead]

ok, cool. component it is. but didn't somebody say that component will give me an utterly crap picture? what exactly is component? isn't component the cable the one I get by default with my machine anyway? (red white and yellow?)

[egparadigm]

ok, so my only real option is to use the leads that come with the machine?

I have attempted the blue, green and red connection option but still only get a black and white image. there isn't a yellow video input on the back of my tv at all.

Do you mean you're plugging the yellow headed composite lead into the component (r,g,b) socket on your TV?

If you could tell us the colour of the heads of the cable you've got there and where you are plugging them in, it would help. At least then we could help you to get at least some picture.

EDIT: Composite is better understood by the moniker compo-****e - component is the best cable. A small spelling difference that masks a multitude of sins.

[Shinebi]

You need to buy a component cable.

He just said it doesn't work
Maybe check the LCD itself if you have to set it to NTSC?

[egparadigm]

Here's a picture, so we can be sure what we're talking about:



On the left is composite. On the right we have component.

One combines all video into a single signal - giving ****ty picture quality. The other sends each colour seperately - giving the best Wii picture.

[Bort]

He just said it doesn't work
Maybe check the LCD itself if you have to set it to NTSC?

Nahh, you just need to read the thread again.

Since the composite cable he has uses a completely different set of pinouts to a component cable, there is no way it would work.

Boxxy, just read this bit and forget everything that is confusing you in this thread.

If you have a scart block that has the yellow (video), red and white (audio) connctors sticking out of it, hook the cable up to it and plug it into a scart socket. You should get a full colour image. If you don't, go into the tv's setting and see if you can enable NTSC.


Composite and component are different types of cables, composite (yellow/red/white) is an old cable that nintendo only included so the wii would work on old televisions.

Component (Red, Green, Blue (video), red, white(audio)) is a newer cable that is used on hdtv's. You get a much better image from using this kind of cable.