Freeloader Wii issue

[Big Seany]

Hi chapos - picked up a US Smash Bros with a freeloader - I think I already know the answer to this....but when I tried it all via RGB scart on my CRT I get red screen...when I disengage RGB mode on my scart switcher it is black and white.....tried the compo leads and no joy.....any way I can get a colour piccy or have I messed up here?

My tv normally handles anything that is thrown at it.

[smshun]

This could the the freeloader version imcompatible with the Smash Bros.

[Big Seany]

No dude - Smash Bros loads up and plays fine - this is definately an output issue as like I say it goes from red to b+w depending on scart settings - I know the US Wii has no RGB scart compatibility. I have a PAL wii and a CRT telly.

[buster_broon]

No dude - Smash Bros loads up and plays fine - this is definately an output issue as like I say it goes from red to b+w depending on scart settings - I know the US Wii has no RGB scart compatibility. I have a PAL wii and a CRT telly.

might be the same problem that Fuse experienced when he connected his Jpn Wii to your TV fella on my first Seany Meet

[egparadigm]

Are there any alternative boot methods you could try, like with the GC Freeloader?

[Big Seany]

might be the same problem that Fuse experienced when he connected his Jpn Wii to your TV fella on my first Seany Meet

Yeah - that was a US Ghost Squad. As i say, it might just be cos US games aren't compatible with RGB - just need someone to confirm. I am sure my telly outputs 60hz as it was bought in Dubai. Might be wrong tho.

As for boot methods I believe there are only two ways you can do it with the Wii one - put loader in, remove, then put game in - or putting loader in, removing, putting in again, then the game.

[charlesr]

Have you got the original compo****e cable you can try?

[Big Seany]

Have you got the original compo****e cable you can try?

I said i'd tried that in the original post you crazy oaf!

[smouty]

Can you set your TV to PAL60?
Otherwise component should work with Wii set to 480p.

[charlesr]

ebay 4 a new/old tv?

[elkatas]

When playing NTSC Smash Bros with Freeloader, game attempts to send S-VHS signal over RGB, which results in red picture. If you use composite or component picture will be outputted correctly.

Furthermore, notice that unlike Gamecube Freeloader, Wii Freeloader doesn't output games in PAL60, but in real, bona fide NTSC. If your TV can't handle real NTSC signal, there is no picture whatsoever. Some people say that using Wii official SVHS cable together with Freeloader will also output colors correctly, but I can't confirm this personally.

[ShadowDancer]

Get this sorted Seany? I remember selling my freeloader and US NMH to AdamStone (I think) and he had the same problem as you on his CRT but worked fine on my HDTV.

Not sure how to fix it though mate...sorry.

[Link83]

When playing NTSC Smash Bros with Freeloader, game attempts to send S-VHS signal over RGB, which results in red picture. If you use composite or component picture will be outputted correctly.

Furthermore, notice that unlike Gamecube Freeloader, Wii Freeloader doesn't output games in PAL60, but in real, bona fide NTSC. If your TV can't handle real NTSC signal, there is no picture whatsoever. Some people say that using Wii official SVHS cable together with Freeloader will also output colors correctly, but I can't confirm this personally.

This is pretty much spot on. Basically when you use the Wii Freeloader with an NTSC game on your PAL Wii, your console 'becomes' an NTSC Wii, which as many people know, doesnt support RGB Scart at all

You can use the composite cable (Yellow, Red, and White plugs) that comes with the Wii, but bear in mind the Wii will be outputting a proper NTSC colour encoded signal (Not PAL60) so if your TV doesnt support NTSC you may see a black and white picture, or you might not see any picture at all!

I guess you could try and use an S-Video cable (Black plug with lots of little pins) whilst the Wii is in NTSC mode, although this would still output an NTSC signal, some TV's may handle it better, Most probably wont though - especially if it already didnt work with the Composite connections. I also suspect that whilst the Wii is still in PAL mode (when you first turn it on before putting in the Wii Freeloader) you may not get any picture (as PAL Wii's dont support S-Video) so you might have difficulty navigating all the Wii/Freeloader menus blind (Please note that I havent actually tried an S-Video cable, this is just what I logically assume would happen)

The best/safest option would be to use a Wii Component cable (Red, Green and Blue plugs, with additional Red and White ones for sound) as Component is neither NTSC nor PAL and it works with all Wii Consoles worldwide.

Unfortunately if you TV doesnt support Component connections, and it wont work over Composite, your kind of out of luck

You could try and buy a Component to Scart convertor which should work fine, but they are pretty costly:-

http://www.js-technology.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=52&osCsid=9fd576af2bfda5d3342c299c914b68ad

and you wont be able to use Progressive Scan Mode (480p 60hz) over RGB Scart, only Interlaced (480i 60hz) signals.

You can still get Progressive Scan though using the convertor I linked to, but you would have to use the VGA connections that this convertor box has, not RGB Scart - and older TV's very rarely have a VGA connector.

....Alternatively its new TV time!

If im wrong on anything please correct me, and sorry for such a long post - I hope it helps someone and if youd like anymore info, please read this NTSC-UK guide (halfway down):-

http://www.ntsc-uk.com/tech.php?tech=ImportHardwareFAQ

[gunrock]

You could try and buy a Component to Scart convertor which should work fine, but they are pretty costly:-

http://www.js-technology.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=52&osCsid=9fd576af2bfda5d3342c299c914b68ad

and you wont be able to use Progressive Scan Mode (480p 60hz) only Interlaced (480i 60hz)

....Alternatively its new TV time!

If im wrong on anything please correct me, and sorry for such a long post - I hope it helps someone and if youd like anymore info, please read this NTSC-UK guide (halfway down):-
http://www.ntsc-uk.com/tech.php?tech=ImportHardwareFAQ

Actually you are wrong about that converter. I have one and you seemed to have missed that it also has a VGA connector on it which will output your 480p signal as VGA.

I've used it with my Wii to produce a VGA signal on my widescreen LCD and also on my CRT to produce a RGB signal over scart.

It's expensive, but it is ace. Works well with my PS2 and original Xbox, too.

[Cornflakes]

I guess you could try and use an S-Video cable (Black plug with lots of little pins) whilst the Wii is in NTSC mode, although this would still output an NTSC signal, some TV's may handle it better, Most probably wont though - especially if it already didnt work with the Composite connections. I also suspect that whilst the Wii is still in PAL mode (when you first turn it on before putting in the Wii Freeloader) you may not get any picture (as PAL Wii's dont support S-Video) so you might have difficulty navigating all the Wii/Freeloader menus blind (Please note that I havent actually tried an S-Video cable, this is just what I logically assume would happen)

Some crt TV's can accept svideo over one of their scart ports, like my old toshiba, however it has to be manually switched, in the tv menu. In that case you could actually use the rgb cable, since it uses the same pinout as the svideo cable, iirc.