Would a USA SNES fit in a UK shell?

[egparadigm]

I was thinking of shoving a USA Snes innards into a UK/PAL SNES shell. Would this be possible?

I understand that it should physically fit (please correct me, if I am wrong). What I'm wondering about now, though, is whether the power button would work. Looking at pictures, it appears that the button is a push-down type - is that correct? If it is a slider like on the UK model, does it fall in the same place? What about other parts, like the cart flap - is that in the correct location?

Thanks for any help!

[Hohum]

The power button on the USA SNES is a slider aswell. As for whether it will fit in a PAL case... not sure. I'd imagine the PCB itself is the same, but unsure about the rear connectors/switch locations.

[spinpug666]

From looking at my USA and Pal Snes' beside each other here the cart flap seems to be in the same place. The power and reset buttons are sliders. Couldn't say what the inside looks like thou.

I know that USA carts wont fit into a UK/Pal cart flap. You'd have to use a adapter or cut it, but i'm sure that would look nasty.
BTW the joypad ports are further apart on the USA version than on the UK/Jap models. I dont know if this is 1 piece or 2 as i've never opened up either (don't have the tool).

The AV, RF and power connections seem to line up on the case.

Power light is in a different place. Usa is on the front left beside pad 1, and Pal is on the upper front right above pad 2.

Only 2 (2 in the middle) of the 6 screw holes underneath line up with each other. I'm guessing this could be a problem if these are used to hold the boards etc in place inside. The 2 middle ones aren't as deep as the other 4, so i'm guessing these hold the main board in place.

Are any good pics online of either of them opened up?

[egparadigm]

Wow, thanks for looking, spinpug. Also good to know the switch is a slider!

Sounds like the controller ports and the screw holes are the only major problems. Presumably I could simply move the controller ports/do a cut-n-shut with a UK SNES.

Sounds promising, at least.

*Waits for someone to tell him why he's wrong*

[honeymustard]

I've got a NTSC console and did have a PAL console at one point, and I'm almost positive you can swap them. The boards themselves are identical, and I think the switches are too. Although the reset button is a slider on the US model, it still pushes down (plastic mechanism on the case is different). You'll just need to use the PAL controller board on it - they can easily be switched as they're only connected by a small ribbon cable.

If you want I can take some pics of my US SNES's innards.

[egparadigm]

That be cool, Mr. 'mustard! Assuming it's not too much hassle?

Just found this from CJ:

http://ntsc-uk.domino.org/showpost.php?p=867789&postcount=8

(A UK SNES inside)

There's also a picture of a widened UK cart slot - not as ugly as I thought it could be!

[honeymustard]

There you go. Ignore the crappy mod lol. As you can see, it's identical, should fit with no problems at all.

Edit: though surely it'd be much better for you just to fit a 50/60hz switch?

Edit again: actually the board layout is slightly different, I see the lockout switch is on the right and a few other bits are moved around. Still, the physical shape is identical as far as I can see.

[egparadigm]

The idea is to have a US SNES with the "subtle design sensibilities" of a UK/JAP machine.

Whether it's worth bother is another question, but I thought I'd look into it at least.

Thanks for the pic!

[Hohum]

A big purple brick under the TV seems perfectly suited to that philosophy.

Seriously though, maybe you'd be better off just getting a SFC? Also, bear in mind that the PAL SNES control ports will only work with PAL control pads unless you modify part of the circuit internally.

[Roddie]

There's also a picture of a widened UK cart slot - not as ugly as I thought it could be!

That does look pretty cool with the cartridge in, but I'm wondering how it looks without a cartridge. Are you just going to remove the flap?

[egparadigm]

Well, I would definitely get a different flap for it. Might harvest the one from the US shell, depending on whether that would fit.

A big purple brick under the TV seems perfectly suited to that philosophy.

I already have one; it's called a GameCube.

[Hohum]

Touche!

[yesteryeargames]

A big purple brick under the TV seems perfectly suited to that philosophy.

Seriously though, maybe you'd be better off just getting a SFC? Also, bear in mind that the PAL SNES control ports will only work with PAL control pads unless you modify part of the circuit internally.

I have heard people say this before about PAL SNES controller ports but I have had several PAL SNES consoles over the years and have used many differant SNES controllers in them with no problems at all, Including official US controllers and even SFC controllers! I've never had any probs using the pal controllers on my US snes either!

[KusoGaki]

Control pads between different region consoles work fine, it's stuff like the SNES mouse which has problems between regions.

(NTSC mouse refused to work in a PAL machine, but would work if i ran the mouse through a multitap)

[Link83]

I have heard people say this before about PAL SNES controller ports but I have had several PAL SNES consoles over the years and have used many differant SNES controllers in them with no problems at all, Including official US controllers and even SFC controllers! I've never had any probs using the pal controllers on my US snes either!

Actually it all depends on the what year the PAL SNES was made in. Later ones worked fine with all controllers (US, JPN and PAL), whereas earlier ones will only work with PAL controllers.
Obviously Nintendo had a change of heart (Or realised how stupid it was)partway though SNES production. For more info read here:-

http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=controls:snes_con_region_fix

They did a similar thing with PAL NES controllers too