360 monitor connection, what response time should I be going for?

[J0e Musashi]

I've gotta get a new 17" monitor, and I'm gonna join the 360 to it as it has dual inputs. The different models in the range have different response times. What would be suitable for the 360?

I'm guessing 5ms good? Can I get away with 8ms, or 25ms?

[EvilBoris]

I'd imagine they are much of a muchness if you are going for a well known brand, I believe the figures are often the same between manufacturers anyway and they just measure them in different ways to get the best sounding 'MS' with some being more honest than others.

[J0e Musashi]

This is the Dell 170Xfp series. It seems the higher the model number, the lower the response time, and the more expense.

[EvilBoris]

Well my Tv claims to be 8ms and I've never seen it smear unless it's black on white or vice versa. Maybe see what the response rate of any existing things you have is

[Psyduck]

Pretty sure you want it under 16ms (1/60th of a second), but doubt there's too much between 8 and 5ms after that. Presumably the 5ms one is better in other ways too tho so may still be worth it.

[RVTK2DX]

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[J0e Musashi]

So I shouldn't bother with a monitor at all then? Why did they even make a VGA cable if that is true?

[Psyduck]

latency is not the same as response time, there's not really any connection between the two.
Response time is how long it takes a pixel to go from white to black to white (I think). If it's too high then stuff can look smeary when there's fast action, asthe pixels can't change colour fast enough to show what's going on. Obviously if it takes 25ms to do and you've got colours changing every 16ms that could be a problem...

Latency is how long it takes a screen to show a picture it's been sent, usually because it's doing some processing to the picture. It's not a problem for watching TV etc but is a problem if you're having input. I assume that monitors won't really do any processing so should be pretty low latency. My TV is around 33ms (latency), and I seem to do just fine on SFIV, and rhythm games have all got options to adjust to you don't notice latency at all.

[smouty]

If you are using VGA there is no difference between a LCD TV or PC monitor. You won't have any issues with response times on a recent panel as long as you don't go for the very bottom of the budget models. If the panel you choose also has HDMI or component connections it will in all probability also be good with video inputs.

[Psyduck]

If you are using VGA there is no difference between a LCD TV or PC monitor. You won't have any issues with response times on a recent panel as long as you don't go for the very bottom of the budget models. If the panel you choose also has HDMI or component connections it will in all probability also be good with video inputs.

he's quoted 25ms on the bottom end dell monitor models he's looking at, so I'd say there probably would be an issue with response times for gaming there.
Also, a TV is designed primarily for showing broadcast TV, and so has all sorts of picture processing to make in particular SD stuff look better. This is all well and good but adds lag and sometimes makes perfect signals you get from consoles/blu ray etc look worse.
PC monitors are simply there to show what's fed into them, so should have less processing, and therefore *should* have less lag and a better picture.
I say should, I don't really know if that's the case...

[J0e Musashi]

Following a tip from smouty I've now got myself a Dell Professional 1909W monitor. It has 5ms response time, although I don't know what the latency is. I'm hoping that it should suffice for 360 gaming. I just gotta find a 360 VGA cable now.

[MonkeyJuggleDX]

Should be fine for your 360.

I have a HannsG HG191A and it's absolutely fantastic for gaming. 5ms response time and I've never had any issues with it. Only fault is the sound is a bit quiet, but I'll be hooking it up to some proper speakers soon anyway.

[Psyduck]

It'll be absolutely fine.

[smouty]

he's quoted 25ms on the bottom end dell monitor models he's looking at, so I'd say there probably would be an issue with response times for gaming there.
Also, a TV is designed primarily for showing broadcast TV, and so has all sorts of picture processing to make in particular SD stuff look better. This is all well and good but adds lag and sometimes makes perfect signals you get from consoles/blu ray etc look worse.
PC monitors are simply there to show what's fed into them, so should have less processing, and therefore *should* have less lag and a better picture.
I say should, I don't really know if that's the case...

Most TVs bypass all processing when using VGA