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    My XP Collapsed

    It collapsed in some style, as well, in a proper smoking ruin.

    For the last couple of days, the PC's been playing up on startup - not getting even as far as the boot diagnostics sometimes, and occasionally booting straight to the BIOS setting for CPU speed. Still, a quick reset, or a "exit and don't save" worked, and Windows came back. Now, though... I went away for the weekend, came back and on startup it got to the Windows XP loading screen, then straight to the BSOD which, far as I can tell, XP only features while it's trying to start.

    In any case, it did the usual, "a problem has been detected and windows has shut down to prevent serious harm to your PC", or whatever, and gave the reason as "Unmountable Boot Device" or some such. Now even to my untrained eyes, it seemed fairly clear that the system drive had catastrophically fallen over, and so I stuck in the XP CD and, on establishing there was nothing on the C: drive at all, attempted a (admittedly hopeful) recovery with FIXMBR and FIXBOOT C: ... both of which reported a nonstandard boot sector, and both of which claimed to fix it.

    On reset, though, no change. Unmountable Boot Device. So, I formatted C: (happily, I've learned to keep important stuff on D: and E, reinstalled XP and here I am again. But what would cause this kind of thing? Is my PC fundamentally b0rked and this is just waiting to happen again..?

    All I've changed is:

    (1) taken out a CD writer that didn't work, and its IDE cable (it was the only thing on secondary IDE)
    (2) taken out a soundcard
    (3) switched on the onboard sound

    Any ideas? Should I be keeping a very close eye on my HDD? Or could it possibly have been a one-off catastrophic failure?

    #2
    +Check the jumper settings on your HD.(should be primary master)
    +Swap over the IDE cable with another one.
    +Have a good dig through your bios settings.
    +Check the power connection to your HD.
    +Do you have adequate cooling for the HD?
    +Do "chkdsk c: /R" from a command line prompt. Reply yes to check on reboot. Reboot.
    When finished look on screen to see if its found any bad sectors.


    From what you have said it does sound like a bios/HD issue. You are quite right to be wary of your HD.

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      #3
      NoooOOOOoOOOoOOOOO, it's happening again >_<

      Hard drive is surviving so far, but from cold the PC is struggling to get to POST, never mind past it. Six times out of ten, it switches on all its bits but just stays as a blank screen. Three times out of ten, it boots to the BIOS screen and asks me how fast I want my processor (interestingly, my option changes every time - it's ranged from 1500 to 1700 so far). One time out of ten, it boots XP just lovely and works no problems for hours on end.

      Any suggestions? Sounds like a BIOS issue, and no mistakin'. Do you suppose a local PC place will have any joy sorting it out, or have I got a ****ed motherboard? I would hope not, with the perfect functionality I get when the bastard gets past POST.

      Any advice gratefully accepted

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        #4
        Three times out of ten, it boots to the BIOS screen and asks me how fast I want my processor (interestingly, my option changes every time - it's ranged from 1500 to 1700 so far).
        Does it also reset the time?

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          #5
          It doesn't, sadly

          Googling this kind of problem seems to be leading towards (1) dodgy PSU not able to kick everything off properly at the same time, or (2) dodgy memory ****ing everything up.

          Do either of those sound like they could cause this sort of symptom, you think..?

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            #6
            Do you have more than one stick of RAM? If so, take one out and see if it helps.

            To be honest - finding the cause of these types of problem is very hard unless you have lots of other hardware around, so you can swap things around to see if they work. If you don't, then it's to the PC shop with you!

            If you suspect the PSU, then try taking out everything unneeded (CD-ROM, PCI cards, AGP card if you can use on-board video etc) to cut power consumption. See if that helps.

            Also, whilst it's a long shot, try setting your IDE settings manually rather than auto detect.

            If it's not enabled, enable the PC speaker for morse-code type error messages.

            But it might sound like dodgy memory. If it's DDR, then you may as well buy some more, it's cheap as chips (ba-dong) at the moment.

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              #7
              Cheers Boog

              To be honest, I'd struggle to suspect the PSU. At this point in time, it's driving an AMD 2.6, a hard drive and a CD writer. And that's it. Onboard graphics, onboard sound. I could probably run this bastard on a PP9 if I tried my best. Dodgy memory is sounding the most likely culprit - particularly given that the clock speed and memory speeds are set to "auto" and that the clock speed choices keep changing every time I boot (currently running at 1.78, has always been 1.6 in the past).

              Might get some new RAM ordered... seems strange that problems like this can just come and go, though...

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                #8
                stupid question i spose, as it sounds like you know what youre doin, but have you reflashed the bios to see fi that helps?

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                  #9
                  Might get some new RAM ordered... seems strange that problems like this can just come and go, though...
                  Stranger things have happened!

                  I had dodgy problems last year with my machine. Just wouldn't boot, but it gave me memory errors. Replaced the memory, still wouldn't boot. So I just got a new motherboard, cpu and memory again, as it seemed like my other new memory was fooked.

                  That's also why I won't touch AMD with a bargepole now. My Intel system is so much more stable

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                    #10
                    Which model is the Motherboard as mine keeps asking me about clock speeds to, I assume its getting fried with the hot weather. :/

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                      #11
                      What Power supply have you got??

                      Seems more like a power issue or a motherboard issue rather than HD/memory.

                      Reset your Bios settings to default n try that also.

                      G

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                        #12
                        CMOS battery backup? Maybe that's died and hence it keeps losing your BIOS settings. Does sound like a power issue, though you don't seem to have much in the way of hardware.

                        Regards
                        Marty

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                          #13
                          Check the SMART status in the BIOS (if you can) it'll give an indication of the health of the drive itself.

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                            #14
                            Memtest86 will do a good workout on your memory to shake down any problems it might be having. If you've got problems specific to bootup, or the hard-drive (memtest86 runs straight from a floppy, so you hard disk could even be unplugged for the duration of the test) this would run ok.

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                              #15
                              I need to know what HDD it is, by chance is it an IBM Deskstar (or Deathstar as some may call it).

                              I had a few of these and they were all faulty , 3 of them with this EXACT same problem.

                              Let me know.

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