Shame on those who have played crappy games just for achievements :P
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Total Scores
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Score Name
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161511 seigfreid007
138048 Gizmo Monkey
117345 Optimus Steak
102664 stevie vip 99
100894 Kubrick XL
99508 Soulja05
98925 Spatial101
88060 MattyHustedUk
87701 ExtremePabs
84600 chopemon
84250 synthesthesia1
84103 rubiq
82455 Gradius57300
78330 no substance85
76098 FamiDude
75732 peeveen
73532 EvilBoris DX
68716 TheMarine1979
68460 ezee ryder
67372 Brats
61221 NoelEdwards
60600 booyabase
59170 Paulos G
58615 Stakers
58475 ChunkyKong
54404 Baron Sqwelch
54049 Bletcher
53636 cavalcade
53442 fuse iidx
48466 ERIC CANTONA 74
47420 Mr Field
46301 tickle360
45828 MythJM
43806 Margoos
43387 ItsThere
41661 RedOilCan
39512 Pods and Wicky
36843 venom743
33695 elaniel
31199 PeteJ
29491 Mr Oscar K
26380 GaaNb0
26195 KATSUJINKEN X
22912 TheSTRAWDoG
17404 k0pp0
16113 qupe75
12726 LaughingAssasin
9919 Legendary 10
5195 Unwell Cat
1970 grinderman1971
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Last Weeks Score Breakdown
* = calculated from xbox.com, may not be exact
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Score Name
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3150 ERIC CANTONA 74 *
.... Fallout 3 (PC) (+1550, 72 achievements, 1550/1550, COMPLETE!)
.... Cloudy with a... (+1000, 25 achievements, 1000/1000, COMPLETE!)
.... DJ Hero (+430, 20 achievements, 735/1000)
.... Scene It?? (+170, 8 achievements, 860/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
2030 Gizmo Monkey
.... Cloudy with a... (+1000, 25 achievements, 1000/1000, COMPLETE!)
.... CSI: Deadly Intent (+475, 18 achievements, 475/1000)
.... BAYONETTA (+220, 16 achievements, 220/1000)
.... Darksiders (+185, 12 achievements, 185/1000)
.... Mercenaries 2 (+110, 5 achievements, 525/1000)
.... 虫姫さまふたり (+40, 2 achievements, 570/1250)
1960 ezee ryder
.... Fallout 3 (PC) (+1540, 71 achievements, 1550/1550, COMPLETE!)
.... BAYONETTA (+400, 27 achievements, 400/1000)
.... The Beatles: Rock Band (+20, 2 achievements, 45/1000)
1640 Optimus Steak
.... Fallout 3 (PC) (+1550, 72 achievements, 1550/1550, COMPLETE!)
.... Darksiders (+90, 7 achievements, 90/1000)
1095 synthesthesia1
.... Saw (+1000, 46 achievements, 1000/1000, COMPLETE!)
.... BAYONETTA (+95, 9 achievements, 95/1000)
1060 FamiDude
.... Trivial Pursuit (+290, 6 achievements, 1000/1000, COMPLETE!)
.... ICC Cricket 2007 (+200, 5 achievements, 220/1000)
.... Fatal Fury Special (+175, 9 achievements, 200/200, COMPLETE!)
.... PES 2010 (+150, 4 achievements, 875/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
.... Football Manager 2006 (+150, "Undefeated Season", 566/1000)
.... Samurai Shodown II (+65, 5 achievements, 90/200, HIGHSCORE!)
.... PES 2009 (+30, 2 achievements, 530/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
1045 MattyHustedUk
.... BAYONETTA (+480, 31 achievements, 480/1000)
.... Saw (+390, 11 achievements, 1000/1000, COMPLETE!)
.... Modern Warfare? 2 (+110, 2 achievements, 635/1000)
.... KOF98UM (+65, 3 achievements, 145/200, HIGHSCORE!)
915 seigfreid007
.... Red Faction: Guerrilla (+385, 15 achievements, 650/1250)
.... Darksiders (+245, 15 achievements, 245/1000)
.... BAJA: Edge of Control (+110, 3 achievements, 475/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
.... GRID (+100, 4 achievements, 995/1100)
.... NFS Undercover (+75, 2 achievements, 1000/1000, COMPLETE!)
855 stevie vip 99
.... UEFA EURO 2008? (+845, 39 achievements, 845/1000)
.... Battlefield 1943? (+10, "Tour of Duty I ", 170/200)
725 NoelEdwards
.... PES 2010 (+355, 7 achievements, 695/1000)
.... CSI: Deadly Intent (+255, 4 achievements, 1000/1000, COMPLETE!)
.... Darksiders (+65, 6 achievements, 65/1000)
.... Forza Motorsport 3 (+50, "Year 2", 365/1000)
705 chopemon
.... Dragon Age: Origins (+195, 8 achievements, 540/1125, HIGHSCORE!)
.... Darksiders (+170, 11 achievements, 170/1000)
.... Saints Row 2 (+155, 3 achievements, 470/1250)
.... Kane & Lynch: Dead Men (+120, 6 achievements, 160/1000)
.... BAYONETTA (+25, 3 achievements, 25/1000)
.... Halo 3: ODST (+20, "Good Samaritan", 835/1000)
.... Rock Band 2 (+20, "Open Road", 95/1000)
670 Spatial101
.... Assassin's Creed II (+375, 22 achievements, 515/1000)
.... Scene It?? (+200, 9 achievements, 480/1000)
.... Scene It? BOS! (+90, 4 achievements, 880/1250)
.... Lips (+5, "Try Freestyle Mode Out", 260/1500)
660 fuse iidx
.... Batman: Arkham Asylum (+525, 31 achievements, 525/1000)
.... LEGO Batman (+55, 3 achievements, 55/1000)
.... Trials HD (+30, "Demon on Wheels", 210/250, HIGHSCORE!)
.... Borderlands (+25, "The Angelic Ruins", 1185/1250, HIGHSCORE!)
.... Castle Crashers (+25, 2 achievements, 150/200)
645 Bletcher
.... Tropico 3 (+370, 23 achievements, 370/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
.... Batman: Arkham Asylum (+145, 5 achievements, 635/1000)
.... Modern Warfare? 2 (+60, 3 achievements, 155/1000)
.... 3 on 3 NHL? Arcade (+50, "Team Player", 190/200, HIGHSCORE!)
.... Dragon Age: Origins (+20, 2 achievements, 20/1125)
535 EvilBoris DX
.... Modern Warfare? 2 (+355, 20 achievements, 435/1000)
.... Halo Wars (+120, 3 achievements, 950/1200, HIGHSCORE!)
.... MINI NINJAS? (+60, 4 achievements, 170/1000)
505 TheMarine1979
.... DJ Hero (+250, 19 achievements, 250/1000)
.... Assassin's Creed II (+195, 11 achievements, 595/1000)
.... Modern Warfare? 2 (+60, 3 achievements, 640/1000)
485 Kubrick XL
.... Assassin's Creed II (+435, 16 achievements, 950/1000)
.... TigerWoodsPGATOUR? 09 (+50, 2 achievements, 720/1000)
405 Pods and Wicky
.... Borderlands (+335, 12 achievements, 805/1250)
.... Darksiders (+70, 5 achievements, 70/1000)
395 tickle360
.... BAYONETTA (+395, 26 achievements, 395/1000)
390 k0pp0
.... Band Hero (+160, 7 achievements, 865/1000)
.... Guitar Hero Metallica (+120, 18 achievements, 120/1000)
.... Peggle (+90, 6 achievements, 95/250)
.... Modern Warfare? 2 (+20, 2 achievements, 405/1000)
375 Margoos
.... EA SPORTS FN 3 (+350, 3 achievements, 350/1000)
.... GTA IV (+25, 2 achievements, 465/1500)
360 Baron Sqwelch
.... BAYONETTA (+300, 22 achievements, 300/1000)
.... Football Genius (+40, 2 achievements, 200/200, COMPLETE!)
.... WALL?E (+15, "Total Perseverance, Part 6", 955/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
.... GTA IV (+5, "TLAD: One Percenter", 510/1500)
345 booyabase
.... BAYONETTA (+160, 13 achievements, 160/1000)
.... LEGO Rock Band (+140, 8 achievements, 450/1000)
.... Borderlands (+25, "Facemelter", 415/1250)
.... Magic: The Gathering (+20, "Dragon Slayer", 190/250, HIGHSCORE!)
320 Soulja05
.... Left 4 Dead 2 (+300, 14 achievements, 465/1000)
.... Army of TWO?: TFD (+20, 3 achievements, 20/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
300 ExtremePabs
.... Ghostbusters (+115, 9 achievements, 165/1000)
.... Halo 3: ODST (+85, 2 achievements, 820/1000)
.... IL-2: Birds of Prey (+35, 6 achievements, 35/1000)
.... DiRT 2 (+30, 2 achievements, 290/1000)
.... Halo Wars (+20, "24 Hours of Quality", 395/1200)
.... Lips (+10, "Smokin'", 335/1500)
.... 1 vs 100 (+5, "Low Rider", 95/200)
290 no substance85
.... KOF XII (+160, 9 achievements, 595/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
.... KOF98UM (+100, 8 achievements, 100/200)
.... Banjo-Kazooie (+30, 2 achievements, 65/200)
280 Paulos G
.... Darksiders (+200, 13 achievements, 200/1000)
.... OF: Dragon Rising (+80, 3 achievements, 160/1000)
260 KATSUJINKEN X
.... WAR TECH:SenkoNoRonde (+260, 10 achievements, 550/1000)
245 Gradius57300
.... GTA IV (+150, 4 achievements, 1025/1500)
.... DEAD RISING (+40, 2 achievements, 1000/1000, COMPLETE!)
.... Texas Hold'em (+40, 2 achievements, 105/200)
.... Peggle (+10, "Party Master", 90/250)
.... Forza Motorsport 3 (+5, "Drift Lap", 820/1000)
215 ChunkyKong
.... Splinter Cell D.A. (+120, 6 achievements, 955/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
.... LEGO? Indiana Jones? 2 (+45, 2 achievements, 60/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
.... The Orange Box (+35, 7 achievements, 35/1000)
.... Halo 3 (+15, "UNSC Spartan", 975/1750)
180 TheSTRAWDoG
.... BAYONETTA (+180, 14 achievements, 180/1000)
180 Brats
.... Forza Motorsport 3 (+105, 7 achievements, 190/1000)
.... Left 4 Dead 2 (+75, 4 achievements, 495/1000)
175 rubiq
.... Darksiders (+175, 9 achievements, 245/1000)
135 PeteJ
.... BAYONETTA (+135, 11 achievements, 135/1000)
135 peeveen
.... Far Cry? 2 (+90, 6 achievements, 350/1000)
.... Guitar Hero Hits (+25, "Cowboys From Hell", 835/1000, HIGHSCORE!)
.... WAR TECH:SenkoNoRonde (+20, "100 ranked matches", 725/1000)
95 Mr Field
.... BAYONETTA (+50, 6 achievements, 50/1000)
.... Fable II (+30, 2 achievements, 30/1350)
.... Left 4 Dead 2 (+15, "FUEL CRISIS", 15/1000)
40 grinderman1971 *
.... Modern Warfare? 2 (+30, 2 achievements, 180/1000)
.... The Maw (+10, "All Growed Up", 10/250)
35 cavalcade
.... Batman: Arkham Asylum (+35, 4 achievements, 35/1000)
35 venom743
.... BAYONETTA (+35, 2 achievements, 335/1000)
30 Mr Oscar K
.... Tinker (+30, 3 achievements, 70/200)
25 RedOilCan
.... Borderlands (+25, "Jakobs Fodder", 1000/1250)
25 ItsThere
.... Forza Motorsport 3 (+25, 3 achievements, 190/1000)
25 elaniel
.... BAYONETTA (+15, 2 achievements, 15/1000)
.... Gyromancer (+10, "Bearer of 3 Awards", 10/250, HIGHSCORE!)
20 LaughingAssasin
.... Darksiders (+20, 2 achievements, 20/1000)
0 Legendary 10
0 qupe75
0 Stakers
0 Unwell Cat
0 GaaNb0
0 MythJM
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So are you also saying that games that have "Cheat Codes" menus, where you can put in cheats, aren't actually cheats either because they're part of the game?
The achievements were not ACHIEVED. Simple as that. As you know, most achievements have a description associated with them that state the requirements in order to unlock that achievement. So unless the Fallout 3 (PC) versions say "Either play the game, or just type a code into the console" then I'd very much class them as being gained by cheating.
I should point out that it obviously has no baring on my life what so ever. I just find it rather odd that people would inflate their gamerscore with points that they gained illegitimately. Heck even Avatar required you to play the game (kinda) in order to get the points.
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Even if the "addachievement" command was not possible in the PC version, the kind of person who would use it is the kind of person who would use the console anyway to keep their health/ammo/etc all topped up every step of the way through the quest, so the way I see it, if they can get it out of their system in one fell swoop, they might as well.
I see that the Roster Of Champions table has already decided that it's not worth listing.
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Originally posted by Kenji View PostI'm with Chopemon on this if it's built into the game I don't think it's cheating. If people are having a dig at people for doing this in fallout 3 on the PC. What about all the people who boost online with a friend to get an achievement you've not really earned for 10 straight online wins.
I do not see the point in getting gamescore you haven't earned. You're only fooling yourself.
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