Phantasy Star Universe: Ambition of the Illuminus

[Silvergun X]

They might not be cheap, but my Dual Railgun board loves me.

FOUND all the materials I needed to synth a second pair, and succeeded, so i've stuck them up in my player shop for 30k.

If they sell, i'll have enough to buy the crossbow. Considering i've still got 2 more class levels to go, by that time i'll be able to afford the PA aswell by the time I turn fortegunner.

Experience and meseta isn't a problem, i'm just really bloody struggling to get past Lv. 8 ranger!

Finding a good Bruce's group is a pain in the arse, i've not got higher than an A rank yet, on a C run, with other Lv. 40~50 players, rushing through it as quick as we could. We keep finishing 30 seconds over. Just couldn't do it.

Then there was the problem of finding a group with people that didn't disband after every ****ing run.

[elaniel]

hey Silvergun, u ran right past me last night, was trying to get you to come into our party as we were doing quite well. But guess you already had one....

I also jsut synthed my first scape doll and dimate.

YAY!!! LOL

Up to 85k now so i see the money is cruising up

And... I bought a Crea weapon, theres only 2 of the long swords. I got teh "cheap" one, and I use that term loosely.

[Silvergun X]

Aye, i'll be on about that if my guns have sold.

I just need to find a solid bruces run to actually get the mission points up, that's all that's messing me around right now. It may take one or two more days, but I WILL hit fortegunner!

I've decided i'm going to go for lightning shot with my crossbow, as the chance to inflict shock seems to be a lot higher than everything else.

When I get crossbow up to Lv. 3 (Lv 21~30), I may completely abandon dual handguns and use the money to purchase an A rank saber to go with it, and just stick with crossbow+saber. Not sure where I want to go with that yet.

[elaniel]

well if yu ever have a spare space, then you can message me to join you if you want to... Its cool if you dont wanna party with me...

I owe you and Re-I so much for helping me out, ask if i ever can do anything for you guys

Money was hard to come by in the beginning, but now at my level, it seems like tehres not so much you buy/ or need to buy, and the money just adds up.

Its just the fact at teh beginning you have to buy armor, weapons, photon arts, and all that, and at a low level, that really takes ur meseta away.


Shocked you getting rid of your guns, most Casts I see only ever use them. But sure a crossbow wud be pretty damned cool

[Silvergun X]

I'll be partying with you guys.

Though unless everyone's level 70, it'll be impossible to S-rank. Multiple, fast A ranks are still damn good for mission points though!

[elaniel]

Thats what I heard. Did it with two peoples 70's and a few others around my level and still cudnt make it...

Yeah Bruces are good for mission, except now that im at an advanced job, it seems to tak ea hell of a lot more mission points to level your job up.

[Riskbreaker]

Yeah that was a good party last night, you need to join us next time Silvergun.

[Silvergun X]

Shocked you getting rid of your guns, most Casts I see only ever use them. But sure a crossbow wud be pretty damned cool

Well a crossbow at level 21~30 fires 3 shots in a spread, essentially a very high powered shotgun. If the bullets are level 3 elemental aswell, with shock that's one damn high chance to inflict status. Then what with an A rank saber by my side to use when i'm recharging the crossbow, I don't think i'd have any use for dual handguns and would probably sell them on.

[Riskbreaker]

I'll be partying with you guys.

Though unless everyone's level 70, it'll be impossible to S-rank. Multiple, fast A ranks are still damn good for mission points though!

You just need to have a set group where everyone knows exactly what they're doing. Apparently B rank Bruces are easier, as even though they have harder creatures, they give you more time.

From what I have seen this is how a Bruce run should be

1st gate: two right, three left. For the two heading right, collect key first so that the three can move onto next area whilst the two kill the spawns near the key.

Next area: Everyone works on killing the creatures asap.

Teleporters: One high level player (or two mid players) go for the teleporter, they need to use the info Bruce gives correctly and go through the correct gate first time (necessary to get S). The other three wait near the door. If the teleport screws up, one/two players from the door (depending on how many headed for the teleporter originally) head to the teleporter to tackle the tree remaining teleports. (I can never remember this, so I don't normally opt to do it )

Crushers: If the teleport was successful, one player grabs the first key whilst the other two head for the switches. Switch player opens every switch and stays on the fourth gate. Gate player goes straight for key and then heads back through 4th gate to kill creatures (can get around this with decent gunner). The player who ran to grab the key should stand near the 4th switch ready to kill the spawns. Whilst the teleporter player(s) run for the next door.
Meanwhile the gate player runs back through the 4th gate to the teleport once those creatures are dead.

Players near door to next area move on, player that killed spawns near switch moves on as soon as they are dead. Gate player and switch player kill new spawns then follow.

All players kill spawns in next area and move to block 2.

Block 2: All players go right and kill creatures in right hand area. Two players run back to gate, three press on through door (can switch this around). When the players that pressed on collect the key, those near the gate work they're way through the creatures until they get to a kill gate (need to kill all creatures before it opens). Players that collected key follow clearing new spawns near first gate.

All players will be together by the time kill gate opens. At the next junction the player with Bruce MUST go straight up with two others. Whilst two head right to collect key. The more players you can send straight up here the better as you need to rinse the next area as quick as possible. Bruce player heads through gate as soon as it opens.

Done.

[Silvergun X]

Trying to get a good party is a ****ing chore, it really is.

It reminds me of FFXI.

You spend ages, and ages waiting for a group of people who actually know what they're doing, you do one good run, then everyone ****ing disbands!

Really, really annoying me. I'm tempted to just grind my mission level up with C runs on dark satellite again.

[dogsout]

Shotguns are a damn sight more powerful than Xbows y'know Silvergun. Shotties get 5 bullets at lvl 21, they're basically our melee weapon of choice.

[Silvergun X]

Yes, but compared to a handgun, the damage per bullet is drastically reduced and the speed is slightly lower. With a Lv. 21 crossbow shooting 3 bullets at A rank handgun damage and with faster speed, I think it comes out on top myself. I could be wrong but that's how I see it.

I actually tried crossbow out on the ol' retired Tripping Contact (RIP), and it's pretty top stuff! The level 1 PA's are only level 1 status effect and quite a small raise in ATP, and large decrease in ATA though. I hope that gets better in the later levels.

Edit: I've just taken a look at shotgun stats and crossbow stats.

A rank shotty is 88 ATP per bullet.
A rank crossbow is 243 ATP per bullet.

At Lv. 21, shotgun gets 5 bullets while crossbow gets 3.

Thus, in the crossbow's 3 bullets, that's 729atp worth of damage compared to the shotgun's 440, and the shotgun is also slower. I don't see how it's more powerful than the crossbow?

[dogsout]

First of all, the stats you quoted are for Att. Atp is your character's stat. This makes a big difference because of the effects of buffs.

Shotgun bullets can hit two targets at once (so up to ten times with one shot) if aimed correctly and the effects of Shifta/agtaride are multiplied 5 times at lvl 21 (shifta/agtaride runs off your character's base atp as opposed to the equipped weapons att, so in terms of shifta/agtaride, the Xbows superior att is meaningless).

So your character's Atp is say, 500. And as I can't be arsed to check the proper boost we'll say Shifta boosts your Atp by 10%.

550 X 5 + 88 X 5 = 3190 X 2 (if you've aimed it well) = 6380 per shot (potentially).

Xbows = 550 X 3 + 243 X 3 = 2379 per shot.

Once you've leveled the bullets to 21 it pisses all over the Xbow in terms of damage per second. Of course, this is no good to you if you're looking for something to equip with a saber/dagger though.

[Silvergun X]

I hardly run on Shifta, but I see where you're coming from.

Other factors to me still sway my decision towards the crossbow - Offhand weapon for one, speed for another, the fact that not all shots have to be carefully aimed to get the maximum damage, etc.

Still, I might check the A rank shotguns out and get the bullets up.

[dogsout]

Everybody is buffed at all times in the higher level parties, well the good ones anyway. Even if you don't get it right and the bullets only hit once it'd still out damage the X-bow.

Not that I'm saying X-bows aren't any good, because they clearly are. It's just that the shotguns are ridiculous if used correctly.