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    It was way too late, everybody started to die, myself included, before I even ran out of MP. Thanks to being zzz when drinks were taking effect.

    What went wrong with the animas BTW?

    LOL - it was fun anyway, you can't always win 'em. A win would have been perfect though considering it only took us about 10mins to get up there. lol.

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    For me this weekend = 2 levels of cooking, 2 levels of BLM (38-40), successful ENM30, failed Holla, and still a recollection of fear left over. Not bad considering I only spent around 10 hours in-game.

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      Originally posted by DavidFallows
      What went wrong with the animas BTW?
      Unsure what you mean here. To my recollection, animas worked as planned.

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        Yeah, my mistake mate, I read you wrong. Van's EES signal just needs a wait5 or something on the end of our anima macros FTW next time.

        I'm up for a run whenever, just PM me when you want to go anima farming Rare, I still have a recollection of fear I'll convert next time I'm on.

        Also it may be worth the mages staying on the ledge out of sleep range if the pots do run out or if the **** hits the fan or whatever. Standard Mandragora tactics FTW. I never like getting close to enemies anyway, let alone boss type ones.

        Mind, this is the sort of boss where if anything goes slightly wrong that's it. Once you give it breath for a second it's over.

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          Yeah I agree. I was kicking myself after I logged off as it was such a stupid thing to recommend Van to EES on the anima call and he should have gone after the anima had been used. EES will almost certainly pull hate and having the anima used gives us 25 seconds to pull hate back with the mob doing nothing. Still we learn from our mistakes and I much prefer to play, fail and learn from it for the win next time.

          Let?s see what we can do for another run. Me and Moot are both up for trying again and both have the anima needed. Sounds like you?re up for trying again and I can help you farm your remaining recollection whenever you want. Hopefully Kuponut is not so disheartened that he wishes to pull out and he still has anima but WHM in anima cycle is really last resort.

          Just the 2 DD needed both of which I would like to have anima so if anyone volunteers I will help them farm the recollections too.

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            Originally posted by C'
            Disappointing weekend all told. Started well enough with anima farming on Friday for our planned attempt at Promyvion-Holla for Kuponut and Davi on Saturday. Myself, Moot and Davi all get anima and I also obtained a second set of recollections. Vanicent had 1 anima already.

            Followed this up with a Promyvion-Dem ENM30 which was an interesting win (finally got to PT with Tobal?s COR ), and on the journey up we picked up aggro which dropped the remaining anima Van needed which was fortunate.

            So Saturday gave us the main battle with the following setup:

            NIN/war
            NIN/war
            BLU/thf
            RNG/war
            BLM/whm
            WHM/blm

            I provided everyone with 2 Poison Pots as that is what we used on my previous successful attempt. And everything went well to start with. Damage was consistent and we hit 75% and used the first anima combination. 50% soon followed but by this point I was slightly concerned as the 2 NIN hadn?t gotten a nice Provoke/Utsusemi rhythm sorted but we used the next anima combo. Between 25% and 50% Van?s damage started to mount up and the combination of this with the lack of decent enmity meant he started to pull hate but the final 25% anima call was made which was also agreed as the signal for Van to use Eagle Eye Shot. Well he pulled hate immediately and because the animas hadn?t been used yet ate an Empty Cutter which killed him.

            Things went downhill from here, in most part because I think everyone panicked and didn?t give any thought as to what to do.

            We got it down to 5% but then we simply couldn?t hit the boss to finish it off and the battle got extended beyond the duration of 2 Poison Pots which obviously stuffed things up. That combined with the NM using it?s drain TP attack meant we couldn?t finish it. So annoyingly close.

            What frustrated me were comments afterwards which basically focussed on the loss being due to not enough Poison Pots and not having a SMN. This kind of thinking annoys me as I went through the chatlog to check for clues as to what went wrong and it was stupid mistakes:

            RNG never immediately reraised and stayed KO?d for around a minute when we needed the extra damage to finish things off.

            Myself and other NIN never used the Hi-Pots we brought for some reason.

            I know one of the mages still had the Hi-Ethers left over after the fight.

            I'm also unsure if the BLM used Manafont.

            Melee were blind towards the end of the fight! - This I think is the biggie. I wondered why my attacks became a total whiff-fest. In an attempt to do as much damage as possible I was spamming shurikens none of which hit. Had we spotted this sooner and got Blindna I reckon it would have been finished.

            All things considered it was incredibly close and I hope we can try again next weekend (maybe Friday evening)
            To all you others on this ENM, stuff your Smn crap you dont need anymore than what you had.

            You think your going to win everything first time think again, Promyvions are a real test, the best thing you can do is look at how the last fight went wrong and come more prepared next time, don't complain and all that crap, looking for a easy fix, you got your team and it is what it is and you can win with that setup, get back in there and keep trying untill you get it.

            I dont think any of us had a smooth time passing Promyvions, I think I beat Dem first time, then failed Mea twice maybe and holla took at least four tries to beat.

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              Tickle will help I'm sure. I'm up for farming whenever. I'll log on tonight and see what peeps are up to.

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                I do need to collect a new tactics pearl at some point amongst the 4 million other things I have on. Think that ones key mind to start getting through the Windurst missions, reckon I'll try to solo 6-1 and 6-2.

                Signed up for Dynamis Jeuno as well tomoz for any of our Dynacoreans. Could use not going but I'll end up missing about 5 in a row if I don't go.

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                  Originally posted by C'
                  RNG never immediately reraised and stayed KO?d for around a minute when we needed the extra damage to finish things off.
                  No, I didn't, and thinking back to it now, it was stupid. The reason I didn't was because I was afriad that as soon as I rasied myself, it would charge towards me again, and kill me, getting me nowhere.

                  That probably wouldn't have happened though, since, when I eventually did raise myself, it didn't even twitch in my direction.

                  Originally posted by C'
                  Will need a volunteer for this most likely, and maybe 2 depending if Van can attend the next attempt.
                  I'm up for it, but it depends when it is that affects if I can take part. I'm off this weekend coming up, so anytime then is great. During the week, I'll have to let you know...

                  Originally posted by DavidFallows
                  Van's EES signal just needs a wait5 or something on the end of our anima macros FTW next time.
                  I'll try and remember that, and then count to 5 before triggering the macro. Or, better still, maybe I should edit the macro so that there's a /wait 5 line between announcing the move, and then using it. That should help.


                  Finally, I will be needing anima before attempting this again. I think I've only got one now, so I'll have to get the other two.

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                    Originally posted by Vanicent
                    I'll try and remember that, and then count to 5 before triggering the macro. Or, better still, maybe I should edit the macro so that there's a /wait 5 line between announcing the move, and then using it. That should help.
                    Either way mate. If the anima ppl have a /wait5 macro it'll tell you exactly when to do it, coupled with a noise, and then your macro can have a 2/3 second delay as well just to make sure.

                    Don't the animas work for 30seconds? That's tons of time for EES.

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                      Originally posted by talizker
                      Tal's Limit Break 5 Jounal continued...

                      3 more solo Ruby Quadav followed by 'quite a lot' of Pots with assistance from Rare and Tob ~ thanks guys, very much appreciated.

                      ...but no Testimony ;_; At least I got a Thunder III scroll which I can use when I get to Lv75!

                      Logged off in Temple of Ugg and will see what everyone is up to tomorrow evening when I get on.
                      Mate, if your on tonight and still need a Testimony I can take you to sky, I chucked two Rdm ones yesterday in the 15 minutes I spent waiting in sky, very very easy to get.

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                        Yeah Van. Just to be clear I wasn?t having a go at you, or any other individual. Just needed to highlight.where I think things went wrong. All told it wasn?t a bad attempt at Promyvion-Holla. From the stories I read, I think there are people who would love to get it to the 5% mark

                        Just for future reference, if you die fighting a monster, in the majority of cases your enmity is completely erased so reraising is safe (there are a couple of exemptions to this rule apparently but have not witnessed them myself).

                        The fact that you are off work all weekend is perfect Van as Kupo doesn?t play during the week now anyway due to college. Let me know if you can be online any evenings and I?ll drag you into Promyvion for anima farming

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                          Let's make it a three-way thing then. Just shoot me a PM either on here or the 360 dash whenever you folks are ready.

                          I need to get my elemental colours sorted out. I may be colour blind with a couple of the elements as I can never seem to work out the difference between pink and light blue, they look the same to me.

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                            I also struggle with the colours but when we were farming the other night I think I spotted that the ?core? of the Empty not only has a different colour but also form depending on its current elemental affinity.

                            For example when it was Thunder element the core seemed to be a ball of electricity.

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                              Originally posted by C'
                              Yeah Van. Just to be clear I wasn?t having a go at you, or any other individual.
                              I didn't think you were, I was just pointing out how stupid (and guilty) I felt after not raising for a bit after being killed.

                              It's brought on from previous FF games, as whenever a character I was controlling died while fighting a boss, I used to revive the character, only to have the boss kill him/her again on the next immediate move, so I was wasting spells or items.

                              Originally posted by C'
                              From the stories I read, I think there are people who would love to get it to the 5% mark
                              Really? I thought it was quite straightforward to get it to that low point.

                              Maybe the LS is just really good at organising these things?


                              Originally posted by C'
                              Just for future reference, if you die fighting a monster, in the majority of cases your enmity is completely erased so reraising is safe.
                              I'll keep that in mind.

                              Originally posted by C'
                              There are a couple of exemptions to this rule apparently but have not witnessed them myself.
                              I've not seen any in FFXI, but the other games... ft:

                              Originally posted by C'
                              The fact that you are off work all weekend is perfect Van as Kupo doesn?t play during the week now anyway due to college. Let me know if you can be online any evenings and I?ll drag you into Promyvion for anima farming
                              Understood.

                              With a bit of luck, I might be off work every weekend by the end of the year.


                              EDIT: Eagle Eye Shot macro has been altered now. There should be a five-second gap between me saying "Using Eagle Eye Shot!" and actually using the attack.

                              I'll "test" it next time we go to Promyvion.
                              Last edited by Vanicent; 11-09-2006, 16:04. Reason: Update

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                                Guys ill help with the promies if u need a DD, i have Drk, War will be at 37, and Thf at 37. Im planning on lvlin nin but doubt illl have that up in time for it so i guess drk/war would be the best.

                                Promies put me through a whole world of pain when i did them, im 1/1 on Holla and Dem but went 1/6 on MEA!!! I hated it. But im up for it!

                                Im logged at the ??? ready for 8-2

                                Had a good last few days hit 35 with war so soon ill be able to use that as a sub. Picked up a few grps for Assault nearly have enough points for my chiv chain!! Although i need the cash so thinking about selling it ><

                                Also im signed up for dyna-jeuno tomoz also tsing so will see you there, will only need sandy then and i have the 4 towns clear.

                                Managed to pick up my hands and feet AF2 as well in the last 2 runs, suppose its the benifit of hardley any drks in that LS

                                Off work this week so hopin to hit 37 with War, and 75 with Drk!!

                                After that im gonna rest drk up and lvl blm for a while and do events like Assault, CoP and hopfully pick up my O-Hat. Also really need to raise some cash for some new equip.

                                So any money makin activities count me in

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