atari 2600 what games are RARE

[trev1976]

hi
just getting into the atari again and was wondering what games are classed as rare and what sort of prices games go for
ta
Trev

[Mayhem]

PAL or NTSC? Or both? I can then start dishing out the names and prices

[trev1976]

well mainly PAL but im interested in both
cheers

[buster_broon]

ET unless you know exactly where they were buried in the arizona desert

[Kubrick]

I've seen some VCS carts fetching prices of $400USD on ebay

[VR46]

I think they're are a couple worth $2000+ but don't know which ones tried looking on fleabay ?

[Mayhem]

Okay dokey... you asked for it here

Though admitedly there are far, far more rare NTSC games because most of them were only released in the US. Having said that, whole swathes of pirate producers are rare on PAL too.

On the NTSC front, these I would consider in the "very hard to find and above" category (machine, region, name, company, rarity 1-10, country):

Atari 2600 Air Raid Men-a-Vision 10 USA
Atari 2600 Artillery Duel/Ghost Manor Xonox 7 USA
Atari 2600 Artillery Duel/Spike's Peak Xonox 7 USA
Atari 2600 Assault Bomb 8 USA
Atari 2600 Beat 'Em & Eat 'Em/Lady in Wading Playaround 7 USA
Atari 2600 BMX Airmaster (Atari) Atari 10 USA
Atari 2600 Boing! First Star 7 USA
Atari 2600 Bumper Bash Spectravision 8 USA
Atari 2600 Burning Desire/Bachelorette Party Playaround 7 USA
Atari 2600 Cakewalk CommaVid 9 1983 USA
Atari 2600 Chase the Chuckwagon Spectravision 7 USA
Atari 2600 Chuck Norris Superkicks/Ghost Manor Xonox 8 USA
Atari 2600 Chuck Norris Superkicks/Spike's Peak Xonox 7 USA
Atari 2600 Color Bar Generator Videosoft 9 USA
Atari 2600 Condor Attack Ultravision 8 USA
Atari 2600 Copy Cart Vidco 8 USA
Atari 2600 Crazy Climber Atari 7 USA
Atari 2600 Cubicolor Self-Published 10 USA
Atari 2600 Death Trap Avalon Hill 7 USA
Atari 2600 Demolition Herby Telesys 7 USA
Atari 2600 Dice Puzzle Panda 7 USA
Atari 2600 Eli's Ladder Simage 10 USA
Atari 2600 Exocet Panda 7 USA
Atari 2600 Gas Hog Spectravision 8 USA
Atari 2600 Gauntlet Answer Software 10 USA
Atari 2600 Glib Selchow&Rightr 8 USA
Atari 2600 Great Escape Bomb 8 USA
Atari 2600 Guardian Apollo 7 USA
Atari 2600 Halloween Wizard Video 7 USA
Atari 2600 Harbor Escape Panda 7 USA
Atari 2600 Ikari Warriors Atari 8 USA
Atari 2600 Jungle Fever/Knight on the Town Playaround 7 USA
Atari 2600 Karate Ultravision 9 USA
Atari 2600 Lochjaw Apollo 9 USA
Atari 2600 MagiCard CommaVid 10 USA
Atari 2600 Malagai Answer Software 10 USA
Atari 2600 Master Builder Spectravision 7 USA
Atari 2600 Miner 2049'er Vol. II Tigervision 7 USA
Atari 2600 Motocross Racer/Tomarc the Barbarian Xonox 8 USA
Atari 2600 Motorodeo Atari 8 USA
Atari 2600 Mr. Do!'s Castle Parker Bros 7 USA
Atari 2600 Music Machine Sparrow 9 USA
Atari 2600 Obelix Atari 7 USA
Atari 2600 Out of Control Avalon Hill 9 USA
Atari 2600 Pepsi Invaders Atari 10 USA
Atari 2600 Philly Flasher/Cathouse Blues Playaround 7 USA
Atari 2600 Q*Bert's Qubes Parker Bros 8 USA
Atari 2600 Quadrun Atari 9 USA
Atari 2600 Rescue Terra I VentureVision 7 USA
Atari 2600 River Patrol Tigervision 9 USA
Atari 2600 Robin Hood Xonox 7 USA
Atari 2600 Robin Hood/Sir Lancelot Xonox 7 USA
Atari 2600 Rubik's Cube Atari 7 USA
Atari 2600 Scuba Diver Panda 7 USA
Atari 2600 Sea Hawk Panda 7 USA
Atari 2600 Shuttle Orbiter Avalon Hill 7 USA
Atari 2600 Sir Lancelot Xonox 7 USA
Atari 2600 Smurfs Save the Day, The Coleco 7 USA
Atari 2600 Space Canyon Panda 7 USA
Atari 2600 Space Chase (monogrammed) Apollo 10 USA
Atari 2600 Spike's Peak Xonox 7 USA
Atari 2600 Springer Tigervision 7 USA
Atari 2600 Stargunner Telesys 7 USA
Atari 2600 Stronghold CommaVid 9 USA
Atari 2600 Stuntman Panda 7 USA
Atari 2600 Survival Island Starpath 8 USA
Atari 2600 Sword of Saros Starpath 8 USA
Atari 2600 Swordquest: Waterworld Atari 7 USA
Atari 2600 Tank Brigade Panda 7 USA
Atari 2600 Tomarc the Barbarian Xonox 7 USA
Atari 2600 Tooth Protectors DSD Camelot 8 USA
Atari 2600 Up 'n Down Sega 7 USA
Atari 2600 Video Jogger Exus 8 USA
Atari 2600 Video Life CommaVid 10 USA
Atari 2600 Video Reflex Exus 8 USA
Atari 2600 Wall Defender Bomb 8 USA
Atari 2600 X-Man Universal Gamex 10 USA
Atari 2600 Z-Tack Bomb 8 USA

On the PAL front... you're looking at German and Taiwan unlicensed games, Brazilian PAL releases, plus the odd hack, conversion and official release...

Atari 2600 Adventures of Tron Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Air Raiders Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Assault / Z-Tack Bomb/Onbase 9
Atari 2600 Asteroid Fire Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Astrowar Arctic 7
Atari 2600 Atlantis Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Auto-Estrada Comp-K7 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Bachelor Party Mystique 7
Atari 2600 Bachelorette Party Mystique 7
Atari 2600 Base Attack Home Vision 7
Atari 2600 Base Ball Future 7 Australia
Atari 2600 Beamrider Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Bermuda Marpes 7
Atari 2600 Blue Print Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Buck Rogers and the Planet of Doom Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Burning Desire Mystique 7
Atari 2600 C.P. Command Son Son 7 Germany
Atari 2600 Cathouse Blues Mystique 7
Atari 2600 China Syndrome Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Chopper Command Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Col ?N? Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Congo Bongo Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Cosmic Ark Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Cosmic War Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Crackpots Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Defender Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Defender Comp-K7 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Defender Arctic 7
Atari 2600 Demon Momo 7 Germany
Atari 2600 Demon Attack Kid Grid 8 Germany
Atari 2600 Demon Attack Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Donald Duck Rentacom 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Donald Duck Imagic 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Donald Duck?s Speedboat Race Polyvox 8 1983 Brazil
Atari 2600 Donkey Kong Jr. Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Enduro Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Enduro / River Raid Galaxy 7 Germany
Atari 2600 Fantastic Voyage Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Fishing Derby Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Flash Gordon Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Fora da Lei Comp-K7 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Frisco Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Frogger Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Frogger Marpes 7
Atari 2600 Front Line Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Futeball Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Galaga Taiwan 7
Atari 2600 General Retreat / Westward Ho! Playaround 10 Germany
Atari 2600 Ghost Manor Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Gigolo Mystique 7
Atari 2600 Gogo Home Monster Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Grand Prix HES 7 1986 Australia
Atari 2600 Great Escape / Wall Defender Bomb/Onbase 9 1983
Atari 2600 H.E.R.O. Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 H.E.R.O. / Phoenix Galaxy 7 Germany
Atari 2600 Hava-Deniz Savaslari Atari 7 Turkey
Atari 2600 Homem Aranha Splicevision 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Invasores Comp-K7 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 IQ 180 Home Vision 8 1983
Atari 2600 Joust Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Jungle Fever Mystique 7
Atari 2600 Jungle Hunt Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Kampf dem Planeten Ariola 8 Germany
Atari 2600 Kangaroo Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Keystone Kapers Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 King Kong / Seaquest SpaceVision 7 Australia
Atari 2600 Krull Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Labrinto Splicevision 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Laser Gates Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Lily Adventure Home Vision 8 1983
Atari 2600 Mafia Hot Shot 7 1984
Atari 2600 Magic Carpet Home Vision 8 1983
Atari 2600 Mangia Spectravision 9
Atari 2600 Marianna Marpes 7
Atari 2600 Mario Bros. Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Missile Control Video Gems 7
Atari 2600 Mission Survive Video Gems 8
Atari 2600 Moon Patrol Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Moonsweeper Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Motorodeo Atari 7
Atari 2600 Ms. Pac-Man / Taz Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Mysterio Azteca / Agenta Super HAL 8 Spain
Atari 2600 Night Driver / Demon Attack Taiwan 7
Atari 2600 Pac-Man / ??? Taiwan 7
Atari 2600 Panda Chase Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Parachute Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Pato Donald Digivision 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Patrulha Planet?ria Comp-K7 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Pengo Atari 8
Atari 2600 Pescaria Comp-K7 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Peter Penguin Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Phoenix Newton 7 Germany
Atari 2600 Phoenix Newton 7 Germany
Atari 2600 PictureMate Spectravision 9 Australia
Atari 2600 Pitfall / Megamania Comp-K7 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Pitufo CBS Games 7 Spain
Atari 2600 Planet Patrol Mark II 8 Germany
Atari 2600 Plate Mania Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Pressure Cooker Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Private Eye Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Racing Car Home Vision 8 1983
Atari 2600 Raiders of the Lost Ark Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 RealSports Tennis Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 RealSports Volleyball Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Rekor Arabalari Atari 7 Turkey
Atari 2600 River Raid Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 River Raid / Boliche Comp-K7 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Robot Fight Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Roc ?n Rope Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Seaquest Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Seaquest Momo 7 Germany
Atari 2600 Ski Hunt Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Sky Alien Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Sky Diver / Frogger Taiwan 7
Atari 2600 Smurf Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Smurf Rescue / Donald Duck Imagic 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Snoopy and the Red Baron Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Space Robot Arctic 7 Germany
Atari 2600 Space Shuttle Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Spider Maze K-Tel Vision 8
Atari 2600 Spike's Peak Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Star Trek Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Steeple Chase Video Gems 8
Atari 2600 Subterrania Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Super-Cowboy Marpes 7
Atari 2600 Tanks War Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Teddy Apple Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Tennis Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Tennis Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Topsy Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Traffic Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Treasure Below Video Gems 8
Atari 2600 Trick Shot Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Trom Comp-K7 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Tubarao Comp-K7 8 Brazil
Atari 2600 Turbo Momo 7 Germany
Atari 2600 Vanguard Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Video Chess Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Vulture Attack K-Tel Vision 8
Atari 2600 Wall Break Home Vision 7
Atari 2600 War 2000 Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 World End Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 X-Man Universal Gamex 8
Atari 2600 X?Mission Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Zaxxon Canal 3 7 Brazil
Atari 2600 Zoo Fun Home Vision 8
Atari 2600 Zorf Comp-K7 8 Brazil

[buster_broon]

Atari 2600 Sky Diver

just to tell you i love that game, very funny

[MD]

Depends what you classify as Rare, NTSC and PAL games are different due to the software writing the display differently so aren't really compatable, some games are uber rare in the states and not in Europe and vice versa.

And dunno about you, but I can't really get too excited about the idea of owning a pirate cartridge of a game that is commonly available anyway. It's like buying a PS1 bootleg in 30 years time and saying 'Wow, r@r3 it has a reasonably good print of the manual and a print disc that isn't scratched...' ?_?

There are also silly things like the version of the game, defender with a blue label is very rare, but it's still defender...

Moto Rodeo (Sp?), Pole Position, Fatal Run, Ikari Warriors (my that was a ****e game...), Mario Bros, Crystal Castles, Moon Patrol, Jungle Hunt, Asterix (Dire...), Obelix, Joust and Tron - Deadly Discs (released by Telegames of all people...)if I remember correctly were all rare to very uncommon titles released titles on PAL. Obelix was only released in France but Asterix was released in the UK but in tiny numbers. Most of these games were released in the early middle to late eighties, which is why they are so hard to find as most people didn't give a toss about the 2600 by then...

[Mayhem]

Quite a lot in that PAL list are only available on PAL, or there was never an official PAL version to begin with (Crackpots and Adventures of Tron for example). But yeah, variations are variations now... depends how deep you collect. To me stuff like the Brazilian release of Moon Patrol means nothing. The Brazilian release of Donald Duck though, that's another thing, that's the only way you'll get a PAL version of it.

Asterix and Obelix are quite easy to find on PAL really... it's the NTSC versions which are the rare ones now! Actually Asterix is missing from the NTSC list above now I look at it; proper complete versions were made, though unknown how many actually made it to marketplace. My ex-gf has a copy for example

I have an NTSC Asterix too... though it's a proto. However seeing as there is only one other known proto for it, kind of makes mine slightly rarer heh.

Indeed from the NTSC list I have the following:

Atari 2600 Chase the Chuckwagon Spectravision 7 USA
Atari 2600 Crazy Climber Atari 7 USA
Atari 2600 Eli's Ladder Simage 10 USA
Atari 2600 MagiCard CommaVid 10 USA
Atari 2600 Malagai Answer Software 10 USA
Atari 2600 Music Machine Sparrow 9 USA
Atari 2600 Pepsi Invaders Atari 10 USA
Atari 2600 Quadrun Atari 9 USA
Atari 2600 Survival Island Starpath 8 USA
Atari 2600 Sword of Saros Starpath 8 USA
Atari 2600 Swordquest: Waterworld Atari 7 USA
Atari 2600 Tooth Protectors DSD Camelot 8 USA

So I'm not doing too badly so far...

[VR46]

what sort of value are those dozen worth Mayhem ? (just being nosey)

[MD]

Just as a question, as Brazil uses PAL-M, which is a strange hybrid of the PAL video standard but the NTSC refresh rate and lines, I would have thought that Brazilian 2600 cartridges would be NTSC (525 Lines, 60Hz) with the internal hardware being tweaked for a PAL display. Although can't get a definate answer due to some FAQs saying that Brazilian carts are American NTSC versions and some saying that Brazil is PAL and therefore must use PAL carts (which is probably not the case...).

Do you have any Brazilian carts mayhem?

[Mayhem]

I don't, but I may shortly MD as I'm getting a copy of Donald Duck's Speedboat sometime in the near future. From what I've been told, Brazilian 2600s are switchable (sometimes do it automatically) between NTSC and PAL-M but the carts themselves are mainly PAL-M. Make of that what you will

As you said, PAL-M keeps the phase burst of the PAL colour frequency using the lines and refresh rate of NTSC, which means generally they don't have problems when being used in this country on a TV that can handle NTSC. They also work fine for US players but they may get strange colour palettes

Certainly the few Brazilian ROMs I have display the correct colour palette under PAL settings in emulators.

@DavisHolliss - rough prices (possible low end, may go for more on eBay etc) for those 12 in question, loose and complete:

Chase the Chuckwagon $75/$300
Crazy Climber $125/$350
Eli's Ladder $750/$1500
MagiCard $750/na (only came as a cart and manual, no box)
Malagai $500/$1250
Music Machine $150/$400
Pepsi Invaders $500/na (only available as a proto or loose cart)
Quadrun $200/$600
Survival Island $75/na (only available as tape and manual, no box)
Sword of Saros $75/na (only available as tape and manual, no box)
Swordquest: Waterworld $75/$300
Tooth Protectors $125/$400

[trev1976]

Eli's Ladder $750/$1500

i cant imagine paying that much for a 2600 cart but cheers for all the help seems mayhem and MD know there stuff on the 2600,i just wanted to buy one again because i had one when i was a kid seems all the games i like are nice and cheap ie

asteroids
mario bros
pac man
ms pac man
jr pac man
pole position
smurfs
donkey kong

anyway you get the jizt
ta
Trev

[Naiera]

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*runs away*