Shocking Ebay Prices

[garyfoo182]

Indeed. That is where I picked up Primal Rage on the 32X, which I sold on for over ?100 having paid a paltry ?4.99

I'm positive i passed on a ?4.99 Darxide three years ago in Union Street, Gametstation in Glasgow. It makes me sad.
I also did the same for Death and Return of Superman on the MD for ?6.99 complete from another shop in Glasgow. I noticed it was made by Acclaim and (wrongly) assumed that it wasn't rare.

Thankfully three years later I have my own Death and Return...

Gary

[Shinebi]

I love the way he says: "I am fiercely proud of my 100% feedback record" - when in fact it is not 100%. What a knobcheese!

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excellent

This guy's hilarious, should have made a commercial to prove his talents.
(O, how I wouldn't wanna be the one that buys it, to open up the mint pack and then have to see that there's a default on the product!)

[Robster]

Im so tempted to post a question asking him is he for real?

What a twat

[Juste]

Bada ba ba bahhh

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TIME-GAL-RARES...QQcmdZViewItem

I would never buy from him again (had really bad experience with him).

[dyer60]

Hello, after reading a few posts not sure I will be the most welcome person around here, but hey there are two sides to every story and here is mine. It is obvious that I have made myself a name for all the wrong reasons.



Before I start please, please allow me to apologise for clearly offending a fair few of you with some of my EBay re selling. It certainly has caused some upset and a lot of peoples time on this forum (about a week at last post). This was never my intention. I am in fact a Sega collector and have a modest collection which I am slowly entering onto Guardiana. I have spent a lot of money of which most has been funded by Credit Cards. In my search for more expensive games (i.e. Darxide, Primal Rage PAL 32X etc) it has left me with big debts. So there we are you can take pride in knowing that I am not sitting on a big wedge in fact quite the opposite.



I decided that in order to reduce some of these as well as a lot of stress that buying and selling at a profit was quite a good idea (although this doesn?t seem the case on this or other forums where I?m called a C**T for fun) some of the posts have shocked me if I had looked earlier I would have known how you felt.



As for the ripping off thing FF2, Daze Before Christmas etc I am a big perfectionist and bought two or three to ensure the one I keep is absolute mint, that being said most of the time the price I sell the excess for is way over priced, if someone decides to buy its their choice!!!



I am now at a point where I only need a few titles for a complete PAL collection and you will be pleased to hear that the re selling will stop so hope you are happy (Wheela?)



For all those wanting to laugh even more at my problems you can celebrate the fact that about 20 titles from my Jap Mega CD collection got stolen last week.



Forums have never been my thing, I am not looking for sympathy and I certainly don?t think you will change your opinion of me but at least I had my two cents!!!!!



It means a lot to me personally what people think of me and I hate being seen as an ass.



James

[Matt]

Respect to the guy for stepping up to the plate like that.

As he says, if he can make money doing it and people are happy to pay his prices, who really cares?

[nem]

Maybe the person who wanted to buy the item and was then outbid by Dyer60 only to see said item be sold for more?

[wheelaa]

Hello, after reading a few posts not sure I will be the most welcome person around here, but hey there are two sides to every story and here is mine. It is obvious that I have made myself a name for all the wrong reasons.

Not at all. Everyone is most welcome here. People argue or disagree all the time, on forums, in real life etc.

Before I start please, please allow me to apologise for clearly offending a fair few of you with some of my EBay re selling. It certainly has caused some upset and a lot of peoples time on this forum (about a week at last post). This was never my intention. I am in fact a Sega collector and have a modest collection which I am slowly entering onto Guardiana. I have spent a lot of money of which most has been funded by Credit Cards. In my search for more expensive games (i.e. Darxide, Primal Rage PAL 32X etc) it has left me with big debts. So there we are you can take pride in knowing that I am not sitting on a big wedge in fact quite the opposite.

People don't care if you're loaded or not. They just dislike price gouging.

As for the CC thing....well a good rule that has stood me in good stead is not to spend money I don't have (ie no sympathy from me sorry)

I decided that in order to reduce some of these as well as a lot of stress that buying and selling at a profit was quite a good idea (although this doesn?t seem the case on this or other forums where I?m called a C**T for fun) some of the posts have shocked me if I had looked earlier I would have known how you felt.

It is a good idea (which is something I personally have alluded to many times)..but it is inevitably going to step on people's toes and **** them off...especially when at times you were basically robbing people blind with shocking markups.

As for the ripping off thing FF2, Daze Before Christmas etc I am a big perfectionist and bought two or three to ensure the one I keep is absolute mint, that being said most of the time the price I sell the excess for is way over priced, if someone decides to buy its their choice!!!

You sound as anal as me hehe.

And you're very correct to say its the buyer's choice.

BUT you still grossly inflated prices for personal gain. You clearly have a passion for retro gaming (a good thing) but you see that passion in others as a way to make an easy profit. That makes you a hypocriitical **** in my eyes.

Just think though how appreciative people would be if you had offered up your spares at the prices you paid. (You say later you care what people think) Many collectors would happily reciprocate.

I am now at a point where I only need a few titles for a complete PAL collection and you will be pleased to hear that the re selling will stop so hope you are happy (Wheela?)

Doesn't bother me chum, I just call things as I see them. (I'll add to that that I NEVER say anything about anyone I wouldn't be happy to say to them personally..so in a way I'm glad you posted here)

Of course if you had shown some financial responsibility in the first place you wouldn't have needed to gouge prices.

You say you will stop when you have got what you want (ie a full pal set)...woohoo. I could read that as 'once I'm sorted I'll stop ripping off others'. Now I appreciate that perhaps isn't exactly what you mean but the point still stands that you have been indulging your passion at the expense of many others who share the exact same passion.

Don't get me wrong, I know that most game collectors sell stuff on constantly. Its just the way you went about it, the level you took it to, that really annoyed me (and others).

For all those wanting to laugh even more at my problems you can celebrate the fact that about 20 titles from my Jap Mega CD collection got stolen last week.

Noone here would find that amusing. If your pet had dumped on a Taromaru instruction, that would raise a smile for sure, but noone here wants to see another person getting ripped off...well except perhaps someone cyncial enough to make money off other people's passion whilst indulging in their own of course. But as you have read those types don't frequent here, very much the oppposite

Forums have never been my thing, I am not looking for sympathy and I certainly don?t think you will change your opinion of me but at least I had my two cents!!!!!

It means a lot to me personally what people think of me and I hate being seen as an ass.

Well then don't act like one and don't try and justify it either with money woes brought on by yourself, sob sob.

[buster_broon]

wee question Adrain

where would you draw the line

this is not directed at you as we have scratched each others backs over the years and i would quite happily sell things onto you at cost (mostly less) mainly because you've done me favours

but an example was shown here today or yesterday

a game was bought from Gamestation for ?5 and sold on ebay for ?100

that was from Seany and we all know he isnt a gouger but tbh i believe its human nature to try and make as much as you can back or at least try your hardest to break even

now that item could have been sold here for ?50 say and its still a mark up of about 900% profit, but here was missed and it went straight to ebay as it has a larger appeal and you generally make more money

in the past i've had pms for some deals on items which i generally entertain but when i'm interested in buying something from that person say and i make an offer i get told they can sell it on ebay for more, so no

i try and sell as much as i can on forums before i use the last resort of eBay

so where would you draw the line: doing it all the time or only doing when you know the item will sell on ebay for big bucks?

as for Dyer, i'm in the camp that kinda applauds him for coming here and saying his piece and if his prices were all high to everybody, i guess he wouldn't sell anything on ebay

[wheelaa]

(I applaud Dyer60 too for sure..although it is only a forum ffs)

Interesting point.

a game was bought from Gamestation for ?5 and sold on ebay for ?100

that was from Seany and we all know he isnt a gouger but tbh i believe its human nature to try and make as much as you can back or at least try your hardest to break even

now that item could have been sold here for ?50 say and its still a mark up of about 900% profit, but here was missed and it went straight to ebay as it has a larger appeal and you generally make more money

The difference is one is a chance find (we all get them at some point), the other is intentional.

I remember when Seany got that, he posted his find here, and we're all "You jammy bugger!". But its a one off situation we'd all like to be in occasionally, and I think we all know its a situation with one of only 2 results..either whoever is in luck gets a corker for their percy collection, or they get a vast profit on ebay.

so where would you draw the line: doing it all the time or only doing when you know the item will sell on ebay for big bucks?

Money schmoney

Seriously..by design ..by jam

as for Dyer, i'm in the camp that kinda applauds him for coming here and saying his piece and if his prices were all high to everybody, i guess he wouldn't sell anything on ebay

Ah but you see 'high' isn't the issue. 'Higher than they should be, for a prolonged period of time, at the expense of people with the exact same passion (whose bargains you may have already taken)' is.


Anyway, 2 other thoughts that occured to me. (just rambling really)

1) James said (in admirable anal collector style) that he dupe bought to ensure personal minty copies. I fully understand that, done it myself loads..but then surely his price hikes are accentuated yet further as presumably he'd swap out any superior parts before putting up the auction??

2) On another forum (where I lurk only) a member there got into debt with other members by buying too much stuff. Members got wind of this and helped him out with a solution. Don't buy more stuff, sell stuff you have to pay off the debts. Simple and effective.

[Tirian]

Ah yes, this old chestnut. I must admit, I've been irritated by dyer in the past too. Mainly for outbidding me, or for managing to sell some little juicy tidbit for 3 or 4 times the best price I've ever managed to get for it

And yeah, wheelaa and I have exchanged frank words on this too ... I've at various times built up a collection - buying, selling and trading to fund it; bought and sold to purely to raise cash because I've been in a cack-paying job and needed to keep head above water; done same to pay for medical expenses I couldn't otherwise afford; traded stuff well below saleable value just to get something I wanted; picked up bargains to pass on at cost to forum acquaintances.

There's a hundred different rationales for buying and selling, and personally I think that drawing these rather arbitrary lines over what's "OK" and what's not is rather daft. A collector selling something for profit is a hypocrite? That seems pretty ridiculous to me. And let's be honest, even you've bought stuff purely to sell for a nice profit at times, wheelaa!

Yeah, I know you have some argument that explains why the way you do it is OK, and the way others do it isn't, but like I said, it just seems pretty arbitrary to me. Still, we've been round the houses on this already ... and agree to disagree.

Let me be the first to say that you're entirely truthful about being prepared to say to the face anything you would say in a forum ... and that furthermore you don't let a disagreement over pedantics such as this be a bar to mulling over the finer aspects of retro Sega goodies aided by a pint or three of beer!

Oh, and with all the best will in the world, I can't summon up much sympathy either for running up a credit card debt to collect games ... seriously, that's nuts! I've sometimes spent more than I should on games, it's true - but never more than I had. And if you've got credit card debts, and a stack of valuable videogames in your room you really should think about downsizing to pay that off.

I'm not trying to be nannying, you're perfectly entitled to ignore that and tell me to mind my own business - however my current job involves working with people who've built up big debts and can't pay them off. You don't want to go there - and all it takes is an unexpected job loss, or something like that and those manageable payments are suddenly unmanagaeble, and those lovely credit card people will whack on all sorts of fees and punitive rates, and screw up your credit rating for years. And apart from anything else, you're shelling out good money on interest that could be paying for games

Tirian

[buster_broon]

(I applaud Dyer60 too for sure..although it is only a forum ffs)

the whole point of forums though - finding others that enjoy the same as you and getting to know them

never met you Adrain but i know i respect you (although it is only a forum ffs)

and many others i may add, not just you

[anagrama]

To be fair, I've bought a couple of things from dyer that I thought were pretty good deals.
I'll await my commission for the DP MegaDrive rarity figures I compiled being used in his eBay listings though

[dyer60]

Thanks for all the responses, they have dazaled me. I must admit I was expecting abuse (and please do not be offended I now respect all of you more than I ever could). As I said these forums are not my thing and I struggle to get to grips with them (all laugh now)!!!!

anagrama: thanks for the feedback re good deals. Yes your DP stuff has helped me a million (let me know any MD games you need maybe I can help) your work on that needs praise a huge thanks from me!!!

nem: I admit I have outbid people for personal gain and that is wrong, to gain any sort of respect from you guys this is the wrong thing to do (although I am sure this has happened between you before) I would be p**d.

Sorry don't know how to do the Quote thing but to wheelas points.

You are right you do have to draw the line somewhere, I would much rather have your respect than anything else as previos posts show the fact that your Sega knowledge makes me look poor and I woud imagine that you could be a huge help. Not being part of this has made that obvious, in fact knowing that I have outbit a fellow collector does grate....

The CC thing you are right don't spend more than you have but hey if that was the case the country would not be in the state it is in (ever atched all those adverts for loans), it is very easy to get caught up in this stuff!!!! But your point is correct!

Anal yes I am sorry, although something we have in common.

I have learned a very valueable lesson your guys respect means more than my EBay feedback, again sorry. I would much rather strike a deal with people here than rip people off but my blinkered GREEDY aproach I thought was right!!!!

I have a huge passion for games and I just hope that I have not killed myself.

Also I really need to know what does "ffs" mean!!!

James



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[garyfoo182]

James, "ffs" is internet slang for "for f**ks sake". I'd just like to point out that I bought a copy of Time Killers from you that was factory sealed on the PAL MD and it was a very reasonable price. I dont wanna open up an entire kettle of fish here so I wont comment. As a fellow ebayer, I despise the actions of some individuals, but applaud others.
I personally have struck many great deals with buyers across the continent and the land of Oz. Obtaining a factory sealed version of Marko's Magic Football on the PAL Mega cd and a copy of Syndicate on the same system both for less than ?30 each is the fruition of excellent contacts and mutual help.
Thats what we all need.
Gary