The Worst of the Dreamcast

[SuperDanX]

I don't like any of the wrestling games so they can all go. All the football games too. Hated Vigilante 8 on the N64 so my sealed 2nd Offense can go.
Jeremy Mcgrath is crap too and don't like Magforce racing. Still going thorugh the games though.

Games to add to the keep list

Looney Tunes Space Race, easy game but I liked it

where is zombie revenge that game is ace!

[qupe]

Vanishing Point, worst handling ever but a game I have nearly completed, why?

Also 4 Wheel Thunder and Hydro Thunder nice pick up and play games. I think anyway.

Anyone like F355 or fighting vipers

[Applefiend]

I'll put in a word for Kao the Kangero for Dreamcast. Just a 100% Crash Bandicoot rip off, only not as good. Shame... Shame!

[Kron]

Vanishing Point, worst handling ever but a game I have nearly completed, why?.

There was deffinately something about that game. The handling got better once you played about with the options as the default settings were awful.

I think the game worked because its one of the few racing games that accurately puts across a feeling of weight behind the movement (Like the first NFS) even though its another one of the upgraded PSone ports its a very good one.

[Anpanman]

Vanishing Point, worst handling ever but a game I have nearly completed, why?

Also 4 Wheel Thunder and Hydro Thunder nice pick up and play games. I think anyway.

Anyone like F355 or fighting vipers

F355 was too bloody hard to control for me.

I would also add Jet Set Radio to the very good list.

[qupe]

Just been playing NHL 2k and Plasma Sword. I remember when I first got my DC that Fur Fighters was not bad either

I haven't got Spiderman or Project Justice

Another couple of crap games MTV sports skateboarding and Freestyle Scooter

[JazzFunk]

Anyone like F355 or fighting vipers

I like both. Vipers on DC reminded me a little bit of Plasma Sword: Nightmare Of Bilstein, which I also like.

[blahzero]

Every copy of Blue Stinger should be burned.

[df0notfound]

Sonic Adventure 2, pathetic

[JazzFunk]

Nobody seems to have mentioned South Park: Chef's Love Shack yet. It offers a small yet pleasurable level of enjoyment, yet is usually described as bad.

But, if you enjoy something, in however small a way, how can it be bad?

Is it bad???

I'm confused!

[strawdonkey]

No, its great. More like one of the best games, tastes depending.

I really wanted to like it, but having tried it again last night - no, it's rubbish.

The footballing aspect of it is fine - albeit rock hard, but the main problem is the stupidity of your players - if they are off the ball then even when they are allegedly under your control (with the 1P marker) they will deviate between running back to their place in the formation and running the way you want them to. The same applies for keepers, mine came out, made a save and ran back to the center of the goal instead of staying out for the rebound!

If you had control of your players then I reckon the game would open up a hell of a lot, but as it is the opposition just end up waltzing through while your team run back and forth not knowing what to do.

Shame really. I don't remember the original VS in the arcade having those issues.

[MikeRox]

I think the game worked because its one of the few racing games that accurately puts across a feeling of weight behind the movement (Like the first NFS) even though its another one of the upgraded PSone ports its a very good one.

Yeah, I loved Vanishing Point, once you learned not to counter steer and jus let the car straighten out, it became possible to get around most the tracks without too much trouble.

It's not an upgraded PS1 port though, well, according to developer interviews anyway, it apparantly started life as a PS2 title then got moved onto Dreamcast when they managed to get better results in a quicker time frame from the DC architechture. The PS1 version was developed simultaneously. I have to say Vanishing Point is one of the best looking 3rd party games on the system imo. But 60fps and nice lighting effects can make a game look far better than the sum of its parts. Great texturing though.

[MattyD]

I noticed Soul Reaver isn't on the list, I really enjoyed that and it's better than the PS version. After bigging-up Shadowman in this thread already I think my 3rd-person adventure fetish is beginning to show

Any opinions on Outrigger? I'm fairly ambivalent about it even with the keyboard and mouse so I'd say probably a binner.

[S3M]

I noticed Soul Raaver isn't on the list, I really enjoyed that and it's better than the PS version. After bigging-up Shadowman in this thread already I think my 3rd-person adventure fetish is beginning to show

Any opinions on Outrigger? I'm fairly ambivalent about it even with the keyboard and mouse so I'd say probably a binner.

Soul Reaver not bad it's just that it's only a direct port of the ps version even down to the graphic's. As you say Outrigger is only ok at best.

Sega Rally 2 good but not perfect, Daytona 2001 isn't that great and MSR is good but not great.

[MikeRox]

I think Daytona 2001 is fantastic personally, so long as you take it for what it is. Just a shame theres no online anymore anywhere

Soul Reaver actually had improved texturing, rendering and a nice silky frame rate on the DC, but the frame rate alone being better was lovely. I wish all the PS1 ports ran at 60fps *me glares at games such as Tony Hawks and Tomb Raider and pretty much 99% of the other PS1-DC ports*