Game of Thrones / House of Dragon

[prinnysquad]

I thought series 4 was the best of the lot.

The writers have actually done a fab job with the material. 480 pages into a Feast for Crows and NOTHING has happened. So if they manage to get a good season out of Crows/Dance with Dragons, they've done remarkably well.

While I think you whinging bints have some very fair points, I think I tune into them from a totally different angle. I like the sense of mortality throughout. Interesting and good people would get bumped off in a world like this; or muted; or chased; or whatever. It's nice that no one is sacred. Everyone is vulnerable to a swift and inglorious end. I love the build ups to big events throughout seasons, and the sense that a bigger game will slowly emerge. The problem with political machinations is that they can only be written into a story a few times before the players get knacked, and new characters have to fill the void, or take their place. To have them perform the same dance would stifle story development. I do think Dany is a dull character, though.

[Asura]

I still really like the show, and have consistently liked it so far.

To those who think the characters keep making "out of character" leaps; have you read the books? Are your perceptions of the characters influenced by that?

My only concern is that it's always been quite a slow burner, punctuated by bits of action. I think some people are expecting a "final act" in season 7 or 8 that is all-out, balls-to-the-wall war, and I'm not sure we'll ever get it. I suspect the writers (and GRR Martin) are building to a "clever" final act, which won't really do, no matter how clever it may be.

[buster_broon]

Apart from Tyrion, brienne of tarth is my favourite character

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and I do hope the bastard gets his name and starts a stark uprising

I think it will take an amazing event for anything to beat the red wedding but I was hoping for more shadow demons and at the time didn't realise it was a one off

[VR46]

I just can't understand how in a 10 episode series, they spend so much time meandering and doing nothing- it's so poorly paced considering theres so much to get through. Instead they consistently wait for a episode 9 "big event" rather than pacing it better.

Get the feeling season five is continuing that theme, just watched episode six and it's all moving along very slowly.

[Neon Ignition]

I'm enjoying Season 5 but it feels like a climb down after Season 4. Doesn't feel like anything of particular note has happened so far, more chess pieces being moved around.

[eastyy]

i can imagine because they are rapidly catching up with the books they will slow the pace a bit

[RobRoy]

They have moved away from the books alot in this series.

[Asura]

Felt they "kicked the dog" a bit with the latest episode. Seemed to be for shock value, rather than entertainment or any reasonable character development.

[Neon Ignition]

I didn't mind the scene that's caused a fuss, it didn't need showing but it made sense considering the characters involved. Didn't think it warranted the fuss made though, it's not the first instance in the show of it. I think it stuck out more because of the glacial pace things are moving at now.

[Brad]

I had to go check out the news to see what scene was even being discussed here. It's like this is the first episode of the series they've ever seen!

[Asura]

I had to go check out the news to see what scene was even being discussed here. It's like this is the first episode of the series they've ever seen!

I disagree. The show's violent; everyone knows and expects this when tuning in - but usually it's tempered with some aspect of the narrative. The Red Wedding

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cut off a major plotline and killed many major characters

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After that scene of this week's episode, I don't think we knew anything we didn't know before.

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Sansa already wanted revenge. Theon is about to snap. Ramsay is a sadist.

These are all things we knew.

[Brad]

Well, you're entitled to your opinion of course, and you're clearly not alone. I saw it though as the portrayal of the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm expecting repurcussions, and soon.

[Asura]

Well, you're entitled to your opinion of course, and you're clearly not alone. I saw it though as the portrayal of the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm expecting repurcussions, and soon.

I think the issue is more that

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Sansa has been through terrible things throughout the series, and her character has developed a great deal. I didn't feel that her being assaulted in that manner can really "intensify" her desire for revenge, when she's already lost her entire family.

[Lebowski]

I think the issue is more that

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Sansa has been through terrible things throughout the series, and her character has developed a great deal. I didn't feel that her being assaulted in that manner can really "intensify" her desire for revenge, when she's already lost her entire family.

I can see your point, I think this is more a plot devise to bring her back to the forefront of the suffering in people minds as the red wedding was a long time ago, its like there building bolton up for a fall, we have already seen that being a bit psychotic and annoying the wrong people can be just as dangerous as trying to do the right thing.

[Brad]

OK bear with me as I find it hard to keep up with all the goings on despite having watched every episode. What had

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Ramsay Bolton done to Sansa before now to make her want revenge on him

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Sansa is concerned Theon has killed her brothers so she has good reason to want him dead but I don't remember what Ramsay has done. Somethign to do with Robb Stark

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Thanks.