Honestly, almost every decision made by Jedi during the movies (original and prequels) is terrible. On rewatches, they are so consistently flawed and terrible, Obi-Wan and Yoda included. At least in the prequel era, it’s partly by design because it’s tied into their downfall but I feel there are mixed messages when it comes to the Jedi - they are always depicted as something to aspire to and yet always awful.
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Originally posted by Dogg Thang View PostHonestly, almost every decision made by Jedi during the movies (original and prequels) is terrible. On rewatches, they are so consistently flawed and terrible, Obi-Wan and Yoda included. At least in the prequel era, it’s partly by design because it’s tied into their downfall but I feel there are mixed messages when it comes to the Jedi - they are always depicted as something to aspire to and yet always awful.
Was it meant to be a commentary on how organised religions being a seat of state power is generally a bad thing?
On how "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"?
It had some lofty ideas but I don't feel it completely stuck the landing.
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At one point, I went digging into George Lucas interviews to find the answer and I just found so many conflicted takes from the man himself. He does acknowledge many times that the Jedi are complicit in their own downfall in the prequels, that they have become corrupt and proud and their judgement is clouded. And yet he also describes them many times in terms that suggest we are still supposed to admire them, that they are the heroes. So I don’t really know what we’re supposed to take from that. On a rewatch, the only character I could possibly admire in the prequels is Padme but then she was totally blind to Anakin and then she just gave up and died from sadness, so maybe there is nobody admirable there.
In the original trilogy, much of what Ben and Yoda say is lovely and sums up what stuck in my child brain about the Force, but then they lie to Luke and try to get him to murder his dad.
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Originally posted by Dogg Thang View PostIn the original trilogy, much of what Ben and Yoda say is lovely and sums up what stuck in my child brain about the Force, but then they lie to Luke and try to get him to murder his dad.
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Originally posted by Neon Ignition View PostThey sucked at being good Jedi's as well. The trouble with Order 66 is it means that a Galaxy of Jedi were wiped out in an incredibly short timeframe by pretty much 3-4 Sith and Stomtroopers
I we all know Stormtroopers can't hit the broadside of a barn
Then activate, and poof. It was utter genius in every conceivable way.Last edited by fishbowlhead; 01-09-2023, 13:48.
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Originally posted by Neon Ignition View PostWhy did they stop producing them?
That, and the expense of making clones, meant the Empire just turned to recruiting (later conscripting) and training stormtroopers instead. By the time of the First Order, the FO recruit and brainwash children (though some of the fiction suggests they do this in a humanitarian way; like, they buy failing orphanages, pick up starving kids in the street - offering them a better life).
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They should have just used another template to replace Fett. Surely it wasn't cost affected either, Palpatine managed to fill a Galaxy with them developing them in secret with hardly any resources, once he controlled the Galaxy he'd have much less trouble. Actually, the Empire is evil and cutting an effective programme due to cost saving is an incredibly Tory move
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Originally posted by Neon Ignition View PostThey should have just used another template to replace Fett. Surely it wasn't cost affected either, Palpatine managed to fill a Galaxy with them developing them in secret with hardly any resources, once he controlled the Galaxy he'd have much less trouble. Actually, the Empire is evil and cutting an effective programme due to cost saving is an incredibly Tory move
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