MCD2: Movie Chart Discussion - Crafting Success

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Found the Variety article:

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/box-office-hits-flops-2018-1203079474/

According to this Infinity War wasn't included because its marketing etc costs added to the budget of the film were so much higher than Black Panthers it meant the film was ultimately not as profitable for Marvel as BP.

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Found the Variety article:

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/box-office-hits-flops-2018-1203079474/

According to this Infinity War wasn't included because its marketing etc costs added to the budget of the film were so much higher than Black Panthers it meant the film was ultimately not as profitable for Marvel as BP.

OK ta. Still not convinced in that I suspect it's a slightly lazy article. Even if Infinity War had a billion spent on marketing, it would still be on that list. The P&L here put the worldwide advertising at $170m. And the same logic needs to apply to all films in the list, not just IW. Also that list is missing successes such as Venom and Deadpool 2. Lastly the wording in the Variety piece: 'Here are some of 2018’s most notable smashes and flops' is just too vague which cements the feeling it's a snapshot rather than any definitive ranking imo.

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I assume they're relying on a basic multiplier method which is why horror films are so present, easy for them to earn many times their cost

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Maybe, but even if the budget was a percentage of the overall revenue - A:IW is still the biggest earner when using that same method. You can't say A:IW had more marketing costs but then exclude them in all the other calculations.

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New year and so a round up of where the current releases are up to:

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=holmeswatson.htm

Holmes and Watson: $24m

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm0617.htm

Aquaman: $751m

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=disneyliveaction22018.htm

Mary Poppins Returns: $174m

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers6.htm

Bumblebee: $157m

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=animatedspider-man.htm

Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse: $213m

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https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm0617.htm

Aquaman: Continues to be the box office success story of the Xmas period and is now officially the most successful DCU entry and the third highest grossing DC related movie ever made. The film continues to make money at a strong pace and has leapt up to a tally of $940m worldwide.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=escaperoom.htm

Escape Room: Opened to $18 at home on a $9m budget so looks ready to be a little success story for Sony

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=disneyliveaction22018.htm

Mary Poppins Returns: Is still tracking behind expectations and is now on $257m, a reasonable taking but not the hit Disney would have hoped for.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers6.htm

Bumblebee: Now sits on $289m worldwide

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=animatedspider-man.htm

Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse: Looks to be slowing down now at $275m

This week is a quiet one so Aquaman looks ready to continue to dominate and to be the DC movie to finally take down the Nolan Batman sequels

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https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm0617.htm

As of Wednesday, Aquaman passed $970m worldwide and by the end of the week will become the first DCU movie to break the $1bn barrier. The film is the sixth DCU movie and it was the sixth MCU movie, Avengers, that broke that same barrier. When it breaks that $1bn it will very likely also surpass The Dark Knight to become the second highest grossing DC movie of all time which will put The Dark Knight Rises next in its target sights followed by Captain America: Civil War

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https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=theupside.htm

In the US, Kevin Hart comedy The Upside somewhat narrowly took the top spot preventing DC from nabbing a fifth week in the number one slot. The comedy opened to $19.5m

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm0617.htm

However, despite that Aquaman moved into the $1bn club to rack up $1,020bn. The total takes the film past the lifetime earnings of The Dark Knight and leaves only one DC movie, Dark Knight Rises, to have earned more. Aquaman should beat that films record within the next week or so.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=animatedspider-man.htm

Elsewhere, Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse cracked the next and likely final hurdle to reach $302m worldwide

Next week eyes will fall on Glass

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https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=universalevent2019.htm

Glass opened to the tune of $89m worldwide, the tally domestically was slightly below projections but the films $20m budget means the trilogy will end a hit regardless.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=dragonballzbroly.htm

Dragon Ball Super: Broly outperformed projections, the animated film is internationally on $86m

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm0617.htm

Aquaman continues at a steady pace in its sixth/seventh week on release. The film is reaching the end of its box office run but rose to $1.06bn this week so remains on course to surpass Dark Knight Rises by the weekend.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=animatedspider-man.htm

At $322m, Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse is now just $9m short of becoming Sony's highest grossing animated movie of all time

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bohemianrhapsody.htm

Bohemian Rhapsody has very quietly been destroying barriers internationally however. The film is now less that $2m from breaking $800m worldwide

Another quiet weekend awaits so these films will be next weeks main focus again

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How has Stan and Ollie performed? I know it hit the U.K. number one spot last week, but internationally...?

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From what I can gather it's on around $3.4m so far but has only opened in two countries, $3.3m coming from the UK release. The estimated budget of the film is said to be around $10m so in theory it shouldn't be hard to break even or make money, apparently the film came out over Xmas in the US so presumably died over there and so it'll likely be a slow crawl to that break even point.

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Americans

I’m going to see it ASAP. It’s reviewed strongly and I’m a massive fan of the Boys.

Thanks, Superman.

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No probs, keen to see it myself and it seems to be doing well in the awards circles so hopefully gets a boost from that

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https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=universalevent2019.htm

The trilogy closing Glass held on in all markets strongly and as a result is now up to a global tally $162m, nearly doubling its takings in a week and putting it heavily into money earning territory.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm0617.htm

Aquaman has meanwhile hit its target. Wan's entry into the DCU has hit a global earning total of $1.09bn and in doing so overtaken The Dark Knight Rises to become the highest grossing DC movie of all time.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=kidwhowouldbeking.htm

The ropey as hell looking The Kid Who Would Be King stumbled hard onto its face with a total $10m opening against a reported $59m budget

It's yet another quiet week ahead, the only real release being select international launches for How to Train Your Dragon 3: The Hidden World

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It was a bad weekend at US cinemas this week thanks to Superbowl:

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=universalevent2019.htm

Glass proved the main winner, holding the top spot on a pretty low earning total but overall its worldwide tally has now hit $198m, nearly ten times its budget

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm0617.htm

Aquaman hit $1.106bn with global earnings showing the film has finally come to its end for the most part but this week will see its final release which is for Japan so it could get a bit of a boost and should pass Skyfall next.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=animatedspider-man.htm

A couple of weeks on and Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse is up to $347m worldwide.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=theyshallnotgrowold.htm

They Shall Not Grow Old took $10m which is a huge success as that total came from just three event screenings

This week should see several of the films in the posts above finally shunted out of screenings with the releases of Cold Pursuit, What Men Want and The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part