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    Originally posted by Wools View Post

    I'm so happy to hear about her progress Neon. Totally understand her mindset though; Work have absolutely ****ed me over the years, all within a veiled smile of "We're doing this for the best interests of the business" but then destroying the employee or company.

    I think that element helps her, she's still in touch with her old job enough to know what's going on and it looks like we were right - she was made redundant to help engineer an intentful situation to make someone else redundant.

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      Originally posted by CMcK View Post
      I started out doing electrical maintenance on single and three phase stuff then moved into operations which I've done for twenty odd years. I know it's unusual to stay in the one job for so long these days but it's local and the pay is decent. Even with all the erosion to the package over the years it was still the best thing on offer without going offshore or to the middle east. Maybe this job will get me to retirement but I'm not holding out any hope.


      Sounds like a great job! Although it is unusual, people like myself are the one's who would rather be in your shoes. If your pay is decent, close to home and your work is good, then why would you want to leave? Reminds me of my Dad, he started work as an apprentice Sparkie, then got a job working for Southern Electric, then stayed with them for 25 years, before being made redundant but then working for Southern Electric again but on-site at Aldershot Army Base, looking after their site. 3 jobs in a working lifetime before retirement.

      Looking forward to moving to your new place on Monday? Is it similar to what you're doing now or a change?

      Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
      I think that element helps her, she's still in touch with her old job enough to know what's going on and it looks like we were right - she was made redundant to help engineer an intentful situation to make someone else redundant.
      That's rubbish to hear. Sounds like your Mrs is switched on to what was being constructed and although **** for her, at least she's not staying at a company like that anymore. I hope her new place treats her a lot better, sounds promising!

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        Originally posted by Wools View Post
        ​Ouch, sounds like a **** decision at Moonpig, which is a real shame. Working in QA for most of my adult life, I've frequently seen that paraded around; QA are the lowest of the ladder, Programmers can do their job, a QA member should actually just code to do the job etc. Letting programmers write their own tests is like marking your own homework, and when do they have the time to do that, anyway? And when you can code to the level I do (Just enough to be dangerous) it's not actually that difficult to learn a coding language and associated QA framework to test an App / Website etc.
        It's a slightly interesting position to be in for myself, not only am I the only QA now (they dispensed with the services of the other guy around this time last year), but my manager is also head of the department, and one of the COOs of the company. So technically I'm only two rungs down the entire corporate ladder

        I am also a **** magnet when it comes to issues, about half the time I find the problems, and half the time the problems find me! If there are 100 vehicles for a company and 1 vehicle in there will cause a problem somewhere in the code, I am almost guaranteed to pick that vehicle first as part of my testing (we utilise periodic backups of the live data for testing purposes). Needless to say my manager both loves and loathes my "efficiency" in dealing with problems heh. The programmers do write all the unit tests for building, and we don't progress until those are functional and passing, but ultimately the buck stops with me once it gets past that stage.

        Or as my Teams moniker states "Hello. My name is Mat Allen. I found bugs in your code. Prepare to cry."
        Lie with passion and be forever damned...

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          Originally posted by Wools View Post


          Looking forward to moving to your new place on Monday? Is it similar to what you're doing now or a change?
          It's similar but not as technical in some respects. Should be more multi-skilling than before which I am looking forward to. Still waiting for my induction and port authority access though so it may not be Monday after all.

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            Originally posted by Mayhem View Post
            I am also a **** magnet when it comes to issues, about half the time I find the problems, and half the time the problems find me! If there are 100 vehicles for a company and 1 vehicle in there will cause a problem somewhere in the code, I am almost guaranteed to pick that vehicle first as part of my testing (we utilise periodic backups of the live data for testing purposes). Needless to say my manager both loves and loathes my "efficiency" in dealing with problems heh. The programmers do write all the unit tests for building, and we don't progress until those are functional and passing, but ultimately the buck stops with me once it gets past that stage.


            Nice work, are you sure we've never worked together?

            I feel that "loves and loathes my efficiency" quote of yours. In all my years, I'm stunned when a CTO, Head of Production, let alone a member of QA, looses their minds about a bug in live or how I'm coping with the pressure of a project and not blowing up. My view is a bug found that is unexpected but holds up a release is a great thing, as we caught it before a customer got it. If that means a build is delayed, so be it. And when someone high up asks for X and Y to get put in a sprint, when we don't have the time, they usually say both are important. After back and forth, I always say; We don't have 2 pairs of hands, nor can we do them both at once. What do you want us to do first? That always stumps them and shocks some people I've worked with, who aren't used to standing up to real *****.

            Like you, I feel I have a real knack for breaking ****, maybe it's in part of our DNA?

            Originally posted by CMcK View Post
            It's similar but not as technical in some respects. Should be more multi-skilling than before which I am looking forward to. Still waiting for my induction and port authority access though so it may not be Monday after all.
            Sounds brilliant mate, I'm seriously excited for you. Hope it's not too overwhelming jumping back into a new role, but bet you love the change and feeling of self worth.

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              Originally posted by Wools View Post
              So yes, I've said yes to the recruiter and she's waiting to hear back from them. If they come back with a yes, then I guess I'll be going down this road again. Nervous but very excited.
              Good stuff, best of luck with it.​ Management isn't for everyone of course but if that's where your heart is it can be very fulfilling.

              Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
              The missus is at the same point, halfway through probationary now, and currently things seem to be going well. The boss has stressed they're very happy with her work and things seem to be very busy so no real question that the work isn't there so technically it's going well - she's struggling to settle into that mindset though, she's still primed with mistrust after what happened in the last job that they might turn around on a dime and make her redundant again.
              Nice to hear Neon, hope it continues for her.​

              Originally posted by CMcK View Post
              Maybe this job will get me to retirement but I'm not holding out any hope.
              Good luck to you too, hope it does get you to the promised land, I'm on my second employer, been with my current one thirty-eight years in November.​


              Originally posted by Mayhem View Post
              It's a slightly interesting position to be in for myself, not only am I the only QA now (they dispensed with the services of the other guy around this time last year), but my manager is also head of the department, and one of the COOs of the company. So technically I'm only two rungs down the entire corporate ladder
              Our part of the business doesn't have a lot of managerial layers and a couple of years back it was even worse, at one point my third line manager was the CEO.

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