The Jill Dando murder shocked me more than anything celebrity wise. Pretty much all the rest you could see coming, Winehouse, MJ and even Pricess Di but Dando was just a presenter.
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Originally posted by abigsmurf View PostThat's just an extreme example.
To add more grey to the choice: your best friend or the coach of kids? Your favourite teacher? Your pet dog? A coach carrying the team you support crashing? A coach carrying 5 more people but they're all middle aged?
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The Norway events undoubtedly had a far worse impact on me, it's rare a piece of news genuinely makes me sad but that acheived it.
I don't begrudge anyone if they feel her death has a bigger impact for them though. She was a genuine talent and had potential to become a once in a generation type of megastar before she threw it all away.
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I agree with Fader, far more upset by a bunch of innocent strangers being killed for no decent reason than seeing just another self inflicted druggy ODing. Always irks me when drug addicts are painted as victims of the drugs, the industry they finance is one of the most destructive and violent on the planet.
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Originally posted by averybluemonkey View PostI agree with Fader, far more upset by a bunch of innocent strangers being killed for no decent reason than seeing just another self inflicted druggy ODing. Always irks me when drug addicts are painted as victims of the drugs, the industry they finance is one of the most destructive and violent on the planet.
And it's not really a matter of "agreeing with Fader." Different things affect different people to different degrees and nobody is wrong for being affected by one or the other. It's not a competition and people shouldn't be made to feel like they're terrible people just because they're more affected by Amy Winehouse dying than the kids in Norway. It should never have been brought up in the first place as a comparison.
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I'm not saying quiting an addiction is easy, it requires willpower.
However, someone's personal weaknesses does not give them a clear ride for financing activities involved in violence, murder, trafficking and so on. I have drunks in the family they always use their weakness as an excuse, doesn't change the fact that other people have got over the exact same addictions as them and if these people can't it's their failing.
And I do think it's a problem if people are affected more by this as was brought up earlier, I think it's a very serious problem with our culture. And as long as that attitude persists the injustices going on outside of the Western world will continue, as we continue to see foreigners as worth less than us.
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Someone told me Amy Winehouse was dead, I didn't bat an eyelid and said 'she was killing herself slowly, it had to happen eventually'.
Lets hope the kids take note and see drugs are not cool, clever and all that glitters is not gold.
I can't believe the death of 1 person who killed herself is being compared to 80+ kids being murdered.
Strange world we live in.
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You can only help a person so much.
They (Winehouse in this case) need to want to 'recover', otherwise its going to only end one way. I daresay her parents and management tried their best to get her the correct care, but she always appeared to me to be on a straight path to self destruction.
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