This scrappage scheme, there's something dodgy about it.

[booth83]

A friend of mine at work recently took advantage of this scrappage scheme to get 2 grand off a new motor, the thing that bothers me about is they insisted his car must pass an mot before they take it from him, at his expense, why if the old car is going to be scrapped, does it need to be tested for it's roadworthy-ness? anyone else on here used the scheme and were the same terms imposed? just sounds a bit fishy to me, i suspect the car won't be scrapped at all, and just sold on for profit by the dealer, which is fair enough if that was an advertised part of the scheme, but it's titled, by the government, a scrappage scheme.

anyway, it's just been bugging me a bit thinking about it, thought i'd get it out there!

[Cobertizo]

It kind of makes sense. If the point is to get people to replace their actual old cars with a new one, then allowing unroadworthy vehicles isn't in the spirit of the thing. And it's part of the deal anyway: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...icle/DG_177693

[booth83]

I can kinda see your point, and admittedly didn't look into it more before posting, but to me the principle of it seemed to be - get old cars off the road, get customers buying new cars thus improving sales and protecting manufacturing jobs. They have to have been owned for a year anyway so i'd have thought this would prevent any bloke off the street to pick up a cheap and unroadworthy vehicle and cashing in for ?2k.

It just seems to be an extra, pointless expense for the consumer.

[funkydan]

I wouldn't have imagined that the car would need an MOT but below states differently (did your friend have a current MOT and they made him get a new one?):

Scrappage Scheme Eligibility - Old Vehicle

• Your old vehicle must be a Car or Light Commercial Vehicle not exceeding 3.5 tonnes (N1 class);
• It must be first registered in the UK before 31 August 1999 (?T? reg and earlier);
• The Claimant keeper must have been the registered keeper for at least 12 months before the new vehicle order date;
• The registered keeper must have a UK address;
• The vehicle must have a current MOT certificate;
• The vehicle must be clear of finance;
• Dealers can?t trade in their own cars;
• Stolen cars are not eligible;
• Insurance write-offs are not eligible.

From here

[abigsmurf]

It's to stop people going to junk yards and buying something without an engine for £50 and using that for the trade in. It's pretty important to ensure that it's only roadworthy cars applicable.

[funkydan]

It's to stop people going to junk yards and buying something without an engine for ?50 and using that for the trade in. It's pretty important to ensure that it's only roadworthy cars applicable.

They have to have owned the car for more than 12 months so that puts a stop to the bit in bold above. If it is indeed a scrappage scheme, an MOT does seem kind of pointless though

[cutmymilk]

I don't think the cars actually get scrapped! If I traded in my perfectly fine Peugeot 206 next year when it's 10 years old and it got scrapped that would be a hell of a waste!

[JB@XL]

It's a bit of a con actually.You only get the 2 grand off the rrp of the car so you can get a better deal with some dealers without using the scrappage scheme as they are already offering over 2 grand off their prices.

I believe they do indeed scrap the cars as you fill out the scrap section on the V5 when you complete the deal.

[Dogg Thang]

Surely passing an MOT is proof positive that a car shouldn't be scrapped?

[QualityChimp]

They do get scrapped.

This excellent condition Morris Minor got exchanged, but has to go to the crusher as part of the deal:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/news/scrappage_scheme_claims_morris_minor.html

[Dogg Thang]

And that just illustrates what seems arseways about this to me. A car like that has survived five decades and looks to be in great condition. And this scheme says that cars shouldn't really last more than 10 years before being destroyed. They are now disposable, like paper cups. Sort of.

[buster_broon]

They have to have owned the car for more than 12 months so that puts a stop to the bit in bold above. If it is indeed a scrappage scheme, an MOT does seem kind of pointless though

I'm sure the 'law of the land' states that all cars on the road must have a valid MOT

If you dont have a MOT how are you going to drive it there?

Its only really going to benefit the minority, since when we were swimming in credit people were re-mortgaging their houses to get at cash they didn't have and buying all kinds of nice stuff, like cars even though the 10 grand they took on their mortgage for that lovely BMW is going to cost them around 30 grand in the long run

Nice cars that are generally 10 years old now are still worth a little more than £2000, so it wouldnt be in the interest of the owner to use the scrappage scheme

My golf is almost nine but i've just sold it for £2600, so it wouldnt have benefitted me next year and i doubt it would have been scrapped, much like Mr Milk's 206

the first person to take part in it was a 70 year old man with a metro 100 which was probably worth around £50 and he had owned it from new

plus i would still haggle even after the £2000 was taken off

[buster_broon]

They do get scrapped.

This excellent condition Morris Minor got exchanged, but has to go to the crusher as part of the deal:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIA...ris_minor.html

but with everybody being more eco friendly, i bet it was a carbon spewing monster (like my golf)

My golf didn't have a turbo, it was only 115bhp yet it spewed as much crap as a porsche into the atmosphere

[JB@XL]

i would still haggle even after the ?2000 was taken off

Buster broon and haggle,never.

[buster_broon]

Buster broon and haggle,never.

glass houses and stones my friend