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    #16
    The cuts would have been made by Labour too - or did you miss that prior to the election?

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      #17
      Got to agree with this, a couple and their kids in the paper a few month back complaining they cannot afford the shopping bill and need a new housing. Earning more than me and my partner do in a real job, the resulting photo shot of them appeared to be only what can be described as the beach whale look. I am sure they are not wasting away. The digs didn't look awful either. bloody pathetic and paid from our pockets.

      Originally posted by merf View Post
      Just watching the housing allowance bit on BBC news, people saying it's not fair that the max limit for rent is being cut from £2k per week to £400 so poor people won't be able
      to live in nice areas, SO BLOODY WHAT, benefit is meant to be a helping hand not putting people claiming it in areas most working people can't afford

      How can anybody defend the current/old labour situation as sustainable or fair ?

      No wonder country got so screwed and in such a state under labour, £21b was their housing benefit budget.
      Last edited by FelixofMars; 25-10-2010, 14:43.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez View Post
        The cuts would have been made by Labour too - or did you miss that prior to the election?
        we'll never know what labour would actually have done if left to deal with their own mess, obviously they wouldn't have had the old plumber/builder card to play of 'which cowboys did this job previously' but are you honestly saying if they'd won the election it would have been business as usual and none of this at all would be happening ?

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          #19
          Social housing will now be centered around already horrible areas in and around London. So basically the rich areas become more exclusive and the poor areas become poorer, creating ghettos.

          Of course, the bills for social housing are massive and that is a problem that needs fixing. However, lowering the amount people can claim AND allowing social housing providers to up the rent to 80% of normal market value will basically stretch the gap between rich and poor to an even larger one. People at the lower end are going to be even more stretched.

          You daily mail readers go on like its every single claimant that is a dole scrounger, when its more than likely the minority. I dont claim any kind of benefits, apart from Child Benefit. I'm one of those mugs who has a mortgage.

          The truth is poor people need all the help they can to get themselves out of the situation they are in. But the current situation doesn't do that, at all.
          Last edited by Adrock; 25-10-2010, 15:09.

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            #20
            Originally posted by merf View Post
            we'll never know what labour would actually have done if left to deal with their own mess, obviously they wouldn't have had the old plumber/builder card to play of 'which cowboys did this job previously' but are you honestly saying if they'd won the election it would have been business as usual and none of this at all would be happening ?
            That's exactly what I'm saying wouldn't be the case.

            Labour had already committed to cuts before the election.

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              #21
              cross purposes I think, your reply wasn't to my original post @#15 but rather to Lebowski @ #14 ?

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                #22
                Originally posted by merf View Post
                cross purposes I think, your reply wasn't to my original post @#15 but rather to Lebowski @ #14 ?
                Aye, I didn't quote so a bit of cross posting confusion.

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                  #23
                  We as a country where in massive debt after worldwar 2, a debt we didnt finish paying off till 1996 what's so different about the debt where in now. Is it because after the financial meltdown we are a lot more aware of government spending?

                  they formed the nhs after ww2 despite The massive debts, I couldn't see today government doing anything so bold for the public.

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                    #24
                    Thought this might be the best place to put this

                    The peasants are revolting!

                    There have been violent scenes at a demonstration in central London against plans to raise tuition fees and cut university funding in England.

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                      #25
                      at least with 30,000 there you could get a drink in Wetherspoons without having to put up with whining students..........

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                        #26
                        So now the `yoof` of today have shown us the way, I'm fully expecting OAP's, public sector workers and child benefit claimants of all sizes and descriptions to be fighting running battles with the po-po in the next few months.

                        Fight the power etc... if anyone needs me I'll be back here with a cup of tea.

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                          #27
                          They're threatening not to vote for Lib Dems at the next elections!!!

                          Apparently they let anyone into universities nowadays because

                          A: Student voters can never be bothered to vote anyway (they always have the lowest turnout &#37. It will make sod all difference.
                          B: In five years time, you're not going to be at uni anymore! You're not going to have any say at the uni seats.

                          From all the coverage I've seen there are two groups of people at this protest:

                          -wannabe anarchists out 'for a good time' who want any excuse to cause mayhem
                          -well off girls. It's kinda hard to be taken seriously when complaining about being a 'poor student' wearing designer clothes and taking videos on expensive phones.

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                            #28
                            While I certainly don't agree with violence etc, surely a rally that goes peacfully means absolutely nothing. The government would just let them get on with it until it is finished.
                            Things need to get broken and damaged caused to be taken seriously or at least the maximum possible disruption to life possible.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by nakamura View Post
                              While I certainly don't agree with violence etc, surely a rally that goes peacfully means absolutely nothing. The government would just let them get on with it until it is finished.
                              Things need to get broken and damaged caused to be taken seriously or at least the maximum possible disruption to life possible.
                              Sounds a bit like terrorism, m'boy.

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                                #30
                                Or the French.

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