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    Originally posted by Decider-VT View Post
    Meetings.

    I had a 3.5 hour meeting today. I have six smaller meetings tomorrow.
    Simple.



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      Aye. I'd often break up a meeting after 10 mins by asking what we are trying to achieve, hearing the answer and then saying something like "well, we don't need to do X, Y and Z then, so let's just do A and B. I will do A, who want to do B? "But, X and Y would be useful - we need to discuss them." they would say. "They don't help us achieve the objective, but if you want to work on them, you go ahead". "Wait, no. I wasn't going to work on them". "Well we are agreed then".

      Same every time.

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        Originally posted by Decider-VT View Post
        Meetings.

        I had a 3.5 hour meeting today. I have six smaller meetings tomorrow.
        We solved this problem with a standing table: no one likes to stand (especially when there are comfortable chairs few steps away), and everyone gets to the point very quickly.

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          lol, genius.

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            Originally posted by Asura View Post
            "Reserve price" on eBay.

            It should be done away with. If there's a minimum price you will sell an item for, you should have to set that as the starting price. If you're worried that's too low, then that's also too ****ing bad.

            I've recently "won" several auctions where I didn't go over the reserve (because not enough other people bid). The whole point of eBay is that the bidders decide the price of your item. If you're not happy with that, there's always "Buy it Now".
            I don't remember but I think a low start+reserve price costs less to list than a high starting price(does reserve have a listing fee?). Also, with a reserve, you can choose whether to sell or not without pretending the item got lost or whatever.

            If you set your maximum bid higher than the reserve, does it not just automatically hit that at the end? I'd have thought it would(seeing as maximum bid is the highest you're prepared to pay).

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              Originally posted by briareos_kerensky View Post
              We solved this problem with a standing table: no one likes to stand (especially when there are comfortable chairs few steps away), and everyone gets to the point very quickly.
              I may end up suggesting this.

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                Originally posted by Lebowski View Post
                the Internet's got you covered





                Racism, the most overused word of the decade to the point where it no longer has a clear meaning to some people, Islam is not a race.

                This is the 21st century where we can humanely and respectfully slaughter animals, all other methods shouldn't even be considered in today's society, NO excuses.

                It isn't just Halal food that abuses animal welfare either, next time you're going to buy a fresh whole chicken just take a moment to examine it, those red marks on the leg skin is the result of urine burns from UK intensive farming methods.

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                  Originally posted by The Moleman View Post
                  It isn't just Halal food that abuses animal welfare either
                  80-88% of halal meat in the UK in 2011 was stunned first. I'd love to eradicate that final 12-20% as well but it's a far cry from the imagery that springs to mind when halal meat is mentioned.

                  Obviously in an ideal system we wouldn't have these huge poultry processing farms but the farms don't claim their methods to be divinely ordained.

                  The issue with halal and kosher meat is the "God told us to do it this way so to hell with any other method" thinking. What gets people riled up is that there will always be a group who will demand to slaughter animals their way, ignoring medical and technological advances that can help reduce suffering. Mind you, my cynical side believes most of these advances are made in the pursuit of profit, rather than welfare(a happy chicken tastes nicer so let's see how many happy chickens we can process per hour).

                  Personally, I think people should eat less meat which would put less strain on production. I think this is especially important for Muslims or any group that requires a special procedure that will slow down production. Halal meat isn't necessarily more expensive than the regular stuff. How can that be possible if they're not taking liberties elsewhere?

                  Also, kosher meat cannot be stunned under any circumstances. Why is that never brought into question?

                  Anyway, people want meat and they want it cheap. That idea needs to change. I believe meat needs to return to its former luxury status. Small, independent farms that follow the rules and look after their animals shouldn't be forced to compete with this cheap sh*t from Tesco that's probably been bummed by an overly-stressed guy who uploads the videos to YouTube.

                  I find it ironic when people bang on and on about the final few minutes of the life of an animal that has been reared in horrible conditions from birth so that we can eat at KFC for pennies.
                  Last edited by randombs; 06-02-2015, 02:50.

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                    Kosher meat works around slitting an animals neck with a very sharp and very thin blade, blood pressure to the brain instantly drops and the animal almost instantly falls unconscious. It has some interest in the animal.

                    You'll always find people with hugely inflated senses of self entitlement. From inhumane animal slaughter to militant breastfeeders who'd whip a tit out at a funeral...

                    People suck.

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                      But that's the same as halal slaughter - slitting the throat with a sharp blade - and the reasoning is exactly the same(quickest, least-painful death with the tools available at the time).

                      Funeral tits sounds like an Instagram account waiting to happen
                      Last edited by randombs; 06-02-2015, 03:04.

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                        To be fair to some of the responses about my 3.5 hour meeting, the meeting itself did lay the groundwork for a fairly decent project. There's a follow-up meeting next week though, of course.

                        One of today's meetings is a catch-up meeting about another meeting. Because my boss is stuck in another meeting and can't attend the meeting that we'll be having a meeting about. I feel like Terry Gilliam would be directing my biopic, if I could get out of this Kafka-esque labyrinth for long enough to actually do something that'd warrant a retelling of this absurdity.

                        Originally posted by The Moleman View Post
                        This is the 21st century where we can humanely and respectfully slaughter animals, all other methods shouldn't even be considered in today's society, NO excuses.
                        The fact that I live in a society where "humane slaughter" is discussed with a straight face is deeply depressing.

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                          What's wrong with eating animals? They eat us, too.

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                            Fairly certain that they haven't devoted entire industries to it. I just can't see the need to eat meat anymore, beyond personal preference. I think we have advanced (or are on the brink of advancing) beyond the need for it and should really be looking at alternatives, for that and other products derived from animals.

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                              I broke the screen on my phone last night.

                              I took a photo of a recipe and it slipped out of my fingers and dropped about 3cm to the kitchen counter.
                              There's a fault with some Sony Xperia phones where the case bends, which happened to mine.
                              I could live with the waterproof seal being compromised (I got banned from the municipal pool filming the yummy mummies), but this meant a small section was slightly raised.

                              Naturally, even though I have a screen protector and descent case, my phone fell on this raised bit, cracked the screen and won't respond to touch.

                              Not only is this inconvenient, it's also a stark reminder of how bloomin' addicted I am to fiddling with my phone.

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                                Wow, even though you had a case specifically designed to be dropped, the Descent case!

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