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Originally posted by Superman Falls View PostMeanwhile, the 5.8m votes for the A50 Revoke petition will be debated on 01 April but Government has already formally rejected the petition.
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Originally posted by Superman Falls View Posthttps://www.theguardian.com/politics...dicative-votes
A list of the proposals put forward for Indicative Voting and there's a lot of wasted breath in the selection for Bercow to sift through:
01 - The Labour Plan - this will be on the ballot
02 - Common Market 2.0 - this will be on the ballot
03 - Confirmatory Public Vote - this will be on the ballot
04 - Customs Union - this or 8 will be on the ballot
05 - Malthouse Compromise Plan A - EU won't allow it
06 - Revoke Article 50 - this or 7 will be on the ballot
07 - Revocation Instead of No Deal - this or 6 will be on the ballot
08 - New Customs Union - this or 4 will be on the ballot
09 - EEA/EFTA without Customs Union - Maybe, not sure where the EU would be with this, I suspect without a CU it would be a no go
10 - No Deal - This is the default position, Bercow might allow this one though
11 - Unilateral Right of Exit from Backstop - EU won't allow it, Bercow won't choose it
12 - Consent of Devolved Institutions - already been rejected, Bercow won't choose it
13 - Contingent Preferential Arrangements - another nonsense, this will happen anyway
14 - Contingent Reciprocal Arrangements - another nonsense, this will happen anyway
15 - Respect of the Referendum Result - this is a nonsense proposal which is status Quo for May's deal. It won't be chosen.Last edited by MartyG; 27-03-2019, 11:11.
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Originally posted by Superman Falls View PostRees-Mogg apologises publicly as he says he will now support May's Deal as long as the DUP will. They won't though meaning he just apologised for nothing highlighting what an utter prat he is.
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This update is gold from PMQs
"Sir Peter Bottomley, a Conservative, says the PM’s deal has not passed parliament because of those who want to stay in the EU, hardline Brexiters and Labour. But most people in the country want it to pass.
May says that is the message she gets from the public too"
There is literally no support for this whatsoever, every poll puts it less publicly supported than Remain or No Deal and shows just how lacking in credibility her position is.
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I only scanned the article but did Corbyn’s people say today that they’d support a referendum for May’s deal but, if they got in, they wouldn’t need a new referendum because their deal would be better? Jeeeeeeeeeez. Talk about not reading the room. They have missed every opportunity to sweep in here and look like the hero. Total conspiracy theory but it’s almost like someone behind the scenes has managed to get everyone involved to force through Brexit at all costs, deal or no deal.
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Interesting that David Cameron's referendum speech popped up in my FB feed.
I can understand why Leave voters feel cheated.
It's amazing just how far away from his promise the Tories are, but still people will vote for them in an election:
“And ultimately it will be the judgement of the British people in the referendum that I promised and that I will deliver. You will have to judge what is best for you and your family, for your children and grandchildren, for our country, for our future.
It will be your decision whether to remain in the EU on the basis of the reforms we secure, or whether we leave. Your decision. Nobody else’s. Not politicians’. Not Parliament’s. Not lobby groups’. Not mine. Just you. You, the British people, will decide. At that moment, you will hold this country’s destiny in your hands. This is a huge decision for our country, perhaps the biggest we will make in our lifetimes. And it will be the final decision.
So to those who suggest that a decision in the referendum to leave… …would merely produce another stronger renegotiation and then a second referendum in which Britain would stay… …I say think again. The renegotiation is happening right now. And the referendum that follows will be a once in a generation choice. An in or out referendum. When the British people speak, their voice will be respected – not ignored.
If we vote to leave, then we will leave. There will not be another renegotiation and another referendum.”
David Cameron, 2015
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The day’s political developments as they happened, including the indicative votes debate as MPs choose from eight options
Rees-Mogg accuses Boles and Letwin of not respecting the referendum, so Letwin points out Mogg has never voted for May's Deal to simply try and make sure the result is delivered on so Moggs response is to accuse them both of not acting like Etonians
Lord alive, what a pretentious p****
Must eat him up that he'll never be PM
Also, May might not be around much longer but a chart following public favour of candidates makes for a depressing read by showing her to be the publics clear favourite still
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