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Originally posted by Zaki View PostI can imagine what Hank Franklinson would say right now:
"Hey Jo! I hear you lost your seat...why dont'cha come here and sit on my lap?"Originally posted by Sketcz View PostShe's utterly lovely. How many hearts were torn in two when she married? Imagine getting to spend the rest of your life exclusively with her as your companion.
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Originally posted by Dogg Thang View PostCorbyn has been rubbish but he didn’t lose it. If the polls are to be believed, people showed up in huge numbers to vote Tory. Not anyone else. Tory.
What happened is that some of the labour votes went to Brexit who would never get a seat but those two or three thousand votes not going to labour meant conservatives with a similar number of votes as last time now won.
Originally posted by Cepp View PostMy area's turned blue, cons won by a few hundred votes. This was a working class labour stronghold previously.
Originally posted by vanpeebles View PostI can't think of anyone they have suitable. Before Corbyn appeared, they would have been better with a Hilary Benn type.
Corbyn is a protester and no use at all as a leader of the country or the opposition, I would prefer someone like Andy Burnham - I know some on here don't like him but each to their own. Looking at the potential candidates they all seem to be Corbyn clones.
Originally posted by charlesr View PostGreens got 800,000 and SNP only got 1.5x that. But greens got one seat and SNP got 48
Under a different voting system he goes on to say that whilst he would have agreed with the conservative austerity policies he wouldn't have let them get away with the cuts as deep as they went because he had the numbers of seats to do it - goes back to my point above about a strong opposition.
Originally posted by Cepp View PostJo Swinson lost her seat? That's about it. You could move to Scotland since they're gearing up for a second indy vote.
McDonnell around the same time was very polite and honest in his answers, saying that they got it wrong, have to listen to the people etc which we generally hear from the big two when they lose.
Originally posted by Zaki View PostWillowdapeeple!
#wank
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The GE result is already delivering wealth to our nation!
The countries 16 billionaires saw their collective wealth increase by £2.1bn simply by the result being read out. One rich European family bought a £65m London house today simply because of the result as open season for foreign buyers reopens again.
Well done working classes!
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Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Posthttps://www.theguardian.com/business...hnsons-victory
The GE result is already delivering wealth to our nation!
The countries 16 billionaires saw their collective wealth increase by £2.1bn simply by the result being read out. One rich European family bought a £65m London house today simply because of the result as open season for foreign buyers reopens again.
Well done working classes!
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Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View PostThe problem is that people in Redcar for example are both geographically and financially so far away from London that trying to explain this would be like trying to teach a dog a magic trick.
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Personally I never saw the problem with Corbyn. He belonged to a different age I guess. There’s no room for principle anymore. The political landscape is awash with liars and conmen. Corbyn was a fanny on so many issues, but the vilification and double-standards of the billionaire press really have done him up like a kipper. All the demonisation of him has truly brainwashed so many of the people whose lives he actually had a vested interest in. They’re too busy talking nonsense about terrorist sympathy, poppies and raincoats.
I wasn’t surprised to hear the idiot secretary at work say he was dangerous. Dangerous? Really? More dangerous than a lying ****rag who slashes and burns all the things you rely on, day in, day out? More dangerous than the press who lie and smear to protect their own interests? More dangerous than the mega corps who place profit before people? Yet she’ll be the first to whine when she’s suffering a fallout of the cuts.
Many of the manifesto ideas I absolutely stand behind. This Tory government and the lurch of the nation to the right will be the ruination of some many people. The cruel side of me says that they deserve it if they voted for them. But that doesn’t really help. So many people have shot themselves in the foot. Nine years of miserable failure from these clowns, and they want more? And why do they want more? Because they’ve been told not to like the other guy, and they want something done that’s going to take a decade to get done anyway. This was a chance for real change. It wasn’t radical change. It was putting things in alignment with other countries, or back to the way they were (but with lessons learnt). It was taking society out of the clutches of the parasites and into the a more accountable, service-orientated set-up. As more and more gets sold off for a quick buck, we are going to lose everything to the leeches, while crowing on about ‘taking back control’. The irony.
As for Labour, they maybe just need a new face behind similar policies. The public are largely behind nationalisation in polls. They need someone who isn’t tainted by press filth. Someone younger and passionate and able to challenge the atrocious record of these loathesome chancers. Once the Tories have arsed up trade deals and workers’ rights, someone who can really take them to task.
Angela Rayner is my preferred choice, with Kier Starmer second. It won’t take long for the press to portray her as a dropout council estate slapper, though.
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Originally posted by Cepp View PostTory's already talking about social care insurance...
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top...-lbc-1-6425258
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Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View PostTo be fair, reading that he's just giving a balanced opinion. He says it could be a general tax or insurance, but the money has to come from somewhere.
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Originally posted by Cepp View PostSocial care is paid for by council budgets which have been cut time and time again by this government. It's a problem of their own making, just like the drop in nursing applications when they axed the nurse bursery and the increase in crime after police numbers were cut.
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