United Kingdom V: Son of a beach

[Asura]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9421281.html
The Chancellor dismisses the idea of Universal Basic Income essentially saying that the government has done enough already to help people.

I wonder... If the Americans genuinely do it, with the dominance of the global and online media that America has...

The fact of the matter is that many people don't care about politics, but everyone cares about money. Part of me feel that there'll be a groundswell of people in other countries who aren't normally engaged by this stuff who will pressure their governments if the Americans get "free money".

[fishbowlhead]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9421281.html
The Chancellor dismisses the idea of Universal Basic Income essentially saying that the government has done enough already to help people.

Sounds about right.

[MartyG]

The US is not doing Universal Basic Income, I don't get where this has come from.

There is going to be a small one off payment that's means tested and becomes lower the higher your gross income based on historical tax returns: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...nment-approved

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/26/uk-coronavirus-live-news-updates-self-employed-rishi-sunakhospital-car-parking-charges-waived-for-nhs-staff-in-england?page=with:block-5e7c8b738f0878a2a48aa88a#liveblog-navigation

The number of UK deaths fell from 87 to 41 yesterday. Great news!

Except it's not. The government have changed the way in which they record COVID deaths so that it now requires the families consent to class the death as one thereby artificially minimising the number.

[Golgo]

^ Just like unemployment levels, etc. Governments can achieve miracles when they concoct new ways of counting things.

[Asura]

^ Just like unemployment levels, etc. Governments can achieve miracles when they concoct new ways of counting things.

The ones that crack me up are crime statistics, as if everyone reports every crime to the police.

[Cassius_Smoke]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...aff-in-England
The number of UK deaths fell from 87 to 41 yesterday. Great news!

Except it's not. The government have changed the way in which they record COVID deaths so that it now requires the families consent to class the death as one thereby artificially minimising the number.

I don't understand. How would the family be qualified to say the person died of Covid19?

'did he die of Covid19?'
'I don't know, can we have an expert tell us?'
'... I'll just chalk this one up to natural causes.'

[charlesr]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...aff-in-England
The number of UK deaths fell from 87 to 41 yesterday. Great news!

Except it's not. The government have changed the way in which they record COVID deaths so that it now requires the families consent to class the death as one thereby artificially minimising the number.

That link doesn't work. Got a working one?

[Neon Ignition]

Amended the link, they seem to have tweaked their UK live updates link which broke it.

The post is from 11:07am

"

3h ago11:07In the comments some readers have been asking about the fact that the government released the UK coronavirus death figures yesterday much later than usual, and that the increase on the previous day (41) was much lower than the previous day’s increase (87).
According to Newsnight’s Nicholas Watt, that is because the government is changing the way it is compiling the figures"

Sienna Rodgers @siennamarla

Well, this is very interesting from @nicholaswatt – the govt is changing the way it is releasing death figures, which “may not actually be the deaths that have taken place over the last 24 hrs” as family consent is now required:

[Asura]

I don't understand. How would the family be qualified to say the person died of Covid19?

'did he die of Covid19?'
'I don't know, can we have an expert tell us?'
'... I'll just chalk this one up to natural causes.'

No, no, they just need the family's consent to say the person died from it. Strictly speaking I think you need the permission of the executor of a will to do that for any cause of death, usually.

[Neon Ignition]

[charlesr]

C-Virus fights back. Johnson has it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52060791

[Dogg Thang]

He'll get the absolute best care, will get over it quickly as a result and will adopt a "it's no big deal" attitude which mixes survivor bias in with his total lack of human empathy and that will only make things worse.

[Neon Ignition]

He's probably infected most of the cabinet

[eastyy]

Poor Virus has caught a Boris