United Kingdom V: Son of a beach

[vanpeebles]

The army should be in charge with a proper lock down and shoot to kill anyone who thinks otherwise.

[fishbowlhead]

The military should be put in charge full stop right now. The government, if you can call the boys club that anymore, has utterly failed at every point and is completely broken.

Then rebuild a new government system based on merit, ability and experience, not how good a buddy were with your polo pal jonesy at Oxford.

[cutmymilk]

I agree. Absolute shambles but the public reckoning is that they have done well. At least for now. There is backlash starting about PPE but now isn't the time. In a year I wouldnt be surprised if there is some sort of trial about the mishandling and lateness of the response.

[fallenangle]

The military should be put in charge full stop right now. The government, if you can call the boys club that anymore, has utterly failed at every point and is completely broken.

Then rebuild a new government system based on merit, ability and experience, not how good a buddy were with your polo pal jonesy at Oxford.

The British military are just as bad, usually initially incompetent and provided with inadequate or wrong equipment for the wrong job. They go in, make a hash of it, the incompetents are sacked and the remainder slowly learn how to do what they need to do. They get the updated equipment necessary and, eventually, the people who know what they're doing in charge. That is until the next crisis/war when they go through the whole process all over again - it has been a feature of British military history for at least 250 years.

We haven't the time to indulge that sort of learning curve so the last thing we need is dumb squaddies policing the UK streets with guns unless, of course, they look like Michelle Keegan - I would not mind that at all.

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But I would not joke about it - there have been rumours of military movement at the start of the current crisis around the big cities and you can be pretty sure there is a bad plan in place to use them if it kicks off anywhere ie. like the 'London' riots of 2011.

[Asura]

The military has no place in civilian politics. None. We shouldn't even entertain that notion.

[Nu-Eclipse]

The military has no place in civilian politics. None. We shouldn't even entertain that notion.

All of this.

People on here putting forward Martial Law as a solution to this need to seriously reassess.

[teddymeow]

All of this.

People on here putting forward Martial Law as a solution to this need to seriously reassess.

Maybe they could use nukes?

[Brad]

All of this.

People on here putting forward Martial Law as a solution to this need to seriously reassess.

Agreed. This fella however would be perfectly acceptable:

[importaku]

What the general public fail to grasp is the less they comply on been actual thoughtful citizens and staying in instead of been selfish ****s the higher chance of the uk going into full police state i mean the government has already pushing on this in the background with the amount of privacy invading crap they have tried over the years. While people think this is a jolly spring jaunt to do as you like and ignore the fact we are in a global pandemic the more the government is going to escalate this stuff from suggesting people stay in to full on arresting people for been outside and once they start pushing harder things there's no going back.

Considering china now requires you to have an app on your phone that shows your immunity status to even travel outside doing day to day stuff you have to be QR code scanned to even go into a supermarket to buy food. Keep it up uk and you'll be on the same pathway, christ that cuntbag may is probably creaming in her knickers at the thought of the uk population under strict survellance.

Maybe they could use nukes?

[CMcK]

Now that’s Marshall Law.

[randombs]

You're both wrong. THIS is Martial Law.

[Cassius_Smoke]

Quote from Battlestar: 'There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.'

[charlesr]

I wonder if the same motion was brought forward today, would the same MPs vote against the nurses pay cap? If not, it means MPs are voting based not on what they believe, but on what is best to protect their careers. No doubt the same thing happens in all parties. Deviating from the party line must be difficult. Would it be possible to have a government where Partys are banned and only individuals represent their constituencies, free to vote in Parliament as they choose? This would require huge change in government, but very little change for the People, apart from actually having to read the manifestos of their local candidates in an election. It can't be any worse than the current shambles can it 🤣

A list of every MP that voted AGAINST a nurses pay raise.

Dominic Raab (CONSERVATIVE)
Boris Johnson (CONSERVATIVE)
Michael Gove (CONSERVATIVE)
Rishi Sunak (CONSERVATIVE)
Priti Patel (CONSERVATIVE)
Jacob Rees-Mogg (CONSERVATIVE)
Matt Hancock (CONSERVATIVE)
John Redwood (CONSERVATIVE)
Chris Grayling (CONSERVATIVE)
Sajid Javid (CONSERVATIVE)
Tobias Ellwood (CONSERVATIVE)
Jeremy Hunt (CONSERVATIVE)
Nicky Morgan (CONSERVATIVE)
Grant Shapps (CONSERVATIVE)
David Davies (CONSERVATIVE)
David Davis (CONSERVATIVE)
Crispin Blunt (CONSERVATIVE)
James Brokenshire (CONSERVATIVE)
James Cleverly (CONSERVATIVE)
Damian Green (CONSERVATIVE)
Dominic Grieve (CONSERVATIVE)
Theresa May (CONSERVATIVE)
Kenneth Clarke (CONSERVATIVE)
Damian Collins (CONSERVATIVE)
Nadine Dorries (CONSERVATIVE)
Iain Duncan Smith (CONSERVATIVE)
Philip Hammond (CONSERVATIVE)
George Eustice (CONSERVATIVE)
Zac Goldsmith (CONSERVATIVE)
Stephen Hammond (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrea Leadsom (CONSERVATIVE)
Dr Liam Fox (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Michael Fallon (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Paul Beresford (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Oliver Letwin (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Nicholas Soames (CONSERVATIVE)
Elizabeth Truss (CONSERVATIVE)
Theresa Villiers (CONSERVATIVE)
Nadhim Zahawi (CONSERVATIVE)
Justin Tomlinson (CONSERVATIVE)
Michael Tomlinson (CONSERVATIVE)
Martin Vickers (CONSERVATIVE)
John Whittingdale (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Henry Bellingham (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Peter Bottomley (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir William Cash (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Alan Duncan (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Roger Gale (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Oliver Heald (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Greg Knight (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Edward Leigh (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Patrick McLoughlin (CONSERVATIVE)
Dame Caroline Spelman (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Desmond Swayne (CONSERVATIVE)
Sir Hugo Swire (CONSERVATIVE)
Anna Soubry (CONSERVATIVE)
Owen Paterson (CONSERVATIVE)
Stephen Metcalfe (CONSERVATIVE)
Johnny Mercer (CONSERVATIVE)
Kit Malthouse (CONSERVATIVE)
Nigel Evans (CONSERVATIVE)
Nigel Adams (CONSERVATIVE)
Bim Afolami (CONSERVATIVE)
Adam Afriyie (CONSERVATIVE)
Peter Aldous (CONSERVATIVE)
Lucy Allan (CONSERVATIVE)
Heidi Allen (CONSERVATIVE)
Stuart Andrew (CONSERVATIVE)
Edward Argar (CONSERVATIVE)
Victoria Atkins (CONSERVATIVE)
Richard Bacon (CONSERVATIVE)
Kemi Badenoch (CONSERVATIVE)
Steve Baker (CONSERVATIVE)
Harriett Baldwin (CONSERVATIVE)
Dr Phillip Lee (CONSERVATIVE)
Dr Thérèse Coffey (CONSERVATIVE)
Dr Caroline Johnson (CONSERVATIVE)
Dr Julian Lewis (CONSERVATIVE)
Dr Andrew Murrison (CONSERVATIVE)
Dr Matthew Offord (CONSERVATIVE)
Dr Sarah Wollaston (CONSERVATIVE)
Dr Dan Poulter (CONSERVATIVE)
Stephen Barclay (CONSERVATIVE)
John Baron (CONSERVATIVE)
Guto Bebb (CONSERVATIVE)
Richard Benyon (CONSERVATIVE)
Jake Berry (CONSERVATIVE)
Bob Blackman (CONSERVATIVE)
Nick Boles (CONSERVATIVE)
Peter Bone (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrew C Bowie (CONSERVATIVE)
Ben Bradley (CONSERVATIVE)
Karen Bradley (CONSERVATIVE)
Graham Brady (CONSERVATIVE)
Jack Brereton (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrew Bridgen (CONSERVATIVE)
Steve Brine (CONSERVATIVE)
Fiona Bruce (CONSERVATIVE)
Robert Buckland (CONSERVATIVE)
Alex Burghart (CONSERVATIVE)
Conor Burns (CONSERVATIVE)
Alistair Burt (CONSERVATIVE)
Alun Cairns (CONSERVATIVE)
James Cartlidge (CONSERVATIVE)
Maria Caulfield (CONSERVATIVE)
Alex Chalk (CONSERVATIVE)
Rehman Chishti (CONSERVATIVE)
Christopher Chope (CONSERVATIVE)
Jo Churchill (CONSERVATIVE)
Colin Clark (CONSERVATIVE)
Greg Clark (CONSERVATIVE)
Simon Clarke (CONSERVATIVE)
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (CONSERVATIVE)
Alberto Costa (CONSERVATIVE)
Robert Courts (CONSERVATIVE)
Geoffrey Cox (CONSERVATIVE)
Stephen Crabb (CONSERVATIVE)👀
Tracey Crouch (CONSERVATIVE)
Chris Davies (CONSERVATIVE)
Glyn Davies (CONSERVATIVE)
Mims Davies (CONSERVATIVE)
Philip Davies (CONSERVATIVE)
Caroline Dinenage (CONSERVATIVE)
Jonathan Djanogly (CONSERVATIVE)
Leo Docherty (CONSERVATIVE)
Julia Dockerill (CONSERVATIVE)
Michelle Donelan (CONSERVATIVE)
Steve Double (CONSERVATIVE)
Oliver Dowden (CONSERVATIVE)
Jackie Doyle-Price (CONSERVATIVE)
Richard Drax (CONSERVATIVE)
James Duddridge (CONSERVATIVE)
David Duguid (CONSERVATIVE)
Philip Dunne (CONSERVATIVE)
Michael Ellis (CONSERVATIVE)
Charlie Elphicke (CONSERVATIVE)
David Evennett (CONSERVATIVE)
Michael Fabricant (CONSERVATIVE)
Suella Fernandes (CONSERVATIVE)
Mark Field (CONSERVATIVE)
Vicky Ford (CONSERVATIVE)
Kevin Foster (CONSERVATIVE)
Mark Francois (CONSERVATIVE)
Lucy Frazer (CONSERVATIVE)
George Freeman (CONSERVATIVE)
Mike Freer (CONSERVATIVE)
Marcus Fysh (CONSERVATIVE)
Mark Garnier (CONSERVATIVE)
David Gauke (CONSERVATIVE)
Nusrat Ghani (CONSERVATIVE)
Nick Gibb (CONSERVATIVE)
Cheryl Gillan (CONSERVATIVE)
John Glen (CONSERVATIVE)
Robert Goodwill (CONSERVATIVE)
Luke Graham (CONSERVATIVE)
Richard Graham (CONSERVATIVE)
Bill Grant (CONSERVATIVE)
Helen Grant (CONSERVATIVE)
James Gray (CONSERVATIVE)
Chris Green (CONSERVATIVE)
Justine Greening (CONSERVATIVE)
Sam Gyimah (CONSERVATIVE)
Kirstene Hair (CONSERVATIVE)
Robert Halfon (CONSERVATIVE)
Luke Hall (CONSERVATIVE)
Greg Hands (CONSERVATIVE)
Mark Harper (CONSERVATIVE)
Richard Harrington (CONSERVATIVE)
Rebecca Harris (CONSERVATIVE)
Trudy Harrison (CONSERVATIVE)
Simon Hart (CONSERVATIVE)
John Hayes (CONSERVATIVE)
James Heappey (CONSERVATIVE)
Chris Heaton-Harris (CONSERVATIVE)
Peter Heaton-Jones (CONSERVATIVE)
Gordon Henderson (CONSERVATIVE)
Nick Herbert (CONSERVATIVE)
Damian Hinds (CONSERVATIVE)
Simon Hoare (CONSERVATIVE)
George Hollingbery (CONSERVATIVE)
Kevin Hollinrake (CONSERVATIVE)
Philip Hollobone (CONSERVATIVE)
Adam Holloway (CONSERVATIVE)
John Howell (CONSERVATIVE)
Nigel Huddleston (CONSERVATIVE)
Eddie Hughes (CONSERVATIVE)
Nick Hurd (CONSERVATIVE)
Alister Jack (CONSERVATIVE)
Margot James (CONSERVATIVE)
Ranil Jayawardena (CONSERVATIVE)
Mr Bernard Jenkin (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrea Jenkyns (CONSERVATIVE)
Robert Jenrick (CONSERVATIVE)
Gareth Johnson (CONSERVATIVE)
Joseph Johnson (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrew Jones (CONSERVATIVE)
David Jones (CONSERVATIVE)
Marcus Jones (CONSERVATIVE)
Daniel Kawczynski (CONSERVATIVE)
Gillian Keegan (CONSERVATIVE)
Seema Kennedy (CONSERVATIVE)
Stephen Kerr (CONSERVATIVE)
Julian Knight (CONSERVATIVE)
Kwasi Kwarteng (CONSERVATIVE)
John Lamont (CONSERVATIVE)
Mark Lancaster (CONSERVATIVE)
Pauline Latham (CONSERVATIVE)
Jeremy Lefroy (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrew Lewer (CONSERVATIVE)
Brandon Lewis (CONSERVATIVE)
Ian Liddell-Grainger (CONSERVATIVE)
David Lidington (CONSERVATIVE)
Jack Lopresti (CONSERVATIVE)
Jonathan Lord (CONSERVATIVE)
Tim Loughton (CONSERVATIVE)
Craig Mackinlay (CONSERVATIVE)
Rachel Maclean (CONSERVATIVE)
Anne Main (CONSERVATIVE)
Alan Mak (CONSERVATIVE)
Scott Mann (CONSERVATIVE)
Paul Masterton (CONSERVATIVE)
Paul Maynard (CONSERVATIVE)
Stephen McPartland (CONSERVATIVE)
Esther McVey (CONSERVATIVE)
Mark Menzies (CONSERVATIVE)
Huw Merriman (CONSERVATIVE)
Maria Miller (CONSERVATIVE)
Amanda Milling (CONSERVATIVE)
Nigel Mills (CONSERVATIVE)
Anne Milton (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrew Mitchell (CONSERVATIVE)
Damien Moore (CONSERVATIVE)
Penny Mordaunt (CONSERVATIVE)
Anne Marie Morris (CONSERVATIVE)
David Morris (CONSERVATIVE)
James Morris (CONSERVATIVE)
Wendy Morton (CONSERVATIVE)
David Mundell (CONSERVATIVE)
Sheryll Murray (CONSERVATIVE)
Robert Neill (CONSERVATIVE)
Sarah Newton (CONSERVATIVE)
Caroline Nokes (CONSERVATIVE)
Jesse Norman (CONSERVATIVE)
Neil O'Brien (CONSERVATIVE)
Guy Opperman (CONSERVATIVE)
Neil Parish (CONSERVATIVE)
Mark Pawsey (CONSERVATIVE)
Mike Penning (CONSERVATIVE)
John Penrose (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrew Percy (CONSERVATIVE)
Claire Perry (CONSERVATIVE)
Chris Philp (CONSERVATIVE)
Christopher Pincher (CONSERVATIVE)
Rebecca Pow (CONSERVATIVE)
Victoria Prentis (CONSERVATIVE)
Mark Prisk (CONSERVATIVE)
Mark Pritchard (CONSERVATIVE)
Tom Pursglove (CONSERVATIVE)
Jeremy Quin (CONSERVATIVE)
Will Quince (CONSERVATIVE)
Laurence Robertson (CONSERVATIVE)
Mary Robinson (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrew Rosindell (CONSERVATIVE)
Douglas Ross (CONSERVATIVE)
Lee Rowley (CONSERVATIVE)
Amber Rudd (CONSERVATIVE)
David Rutley (CONSERVATIVE)
Antoinette Sandbach (CONSERVATIVE)
Paul Scully (CONSERVATIVE)
Bob Seely (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrew Selous (CONSERVATIVE)
Alok Sharma (CONSERVATIVE)
Alec Shelbrooke (CONSERVATIVE)
Keith Simpson (CONSERVATIVE)
Chris Skidmore (CONSERVATIVE)
Chloe Smith (CONSERVATIVE)
Henry Smith (CONSERVATIVE)
Julian Smith (CONSERVATIVE)
Royston Smith (CONSERVATIVE)
Mark Spencer (CONSERVATIVE)
Andrew Stephenson (CONSERVATIVE)
John Stevenson (CONSERVATIVE)
Bob Stewart (CONSERVATIVE)
Iain Stewart (CONSERVATIVE)
Rory Stewart (CONSERVATIVE)
Gary Streeter (CONSERVATIVE)
Mel Stride (CONSERVATIVE)
Graham Stuart (CONSERVATIVE)
Julian Sturdy (CONSERVATIVE)
Robert Syms (CONSERVATIVE)
Derek Thomas (CONSERVATIVE)
Ross Thomson (CONSERVATIVE)
Maggie Throup (CONSERVATIVE)
Kelly Tolhurst (CONSERVATIVE)
Craig Tracey (CONSERVATIVE)
David Tredinnick (CONSERVATIVE)
Anne-Marie Trevelyan (CONSERVATIVE)
Tom Tugendhat (CONSERVATIVE)
Edward Vaizey (CONSERVATIVE)
Shailesh Vara (CONSERVATIVE)
Charles Walker (CONSERVATIVE)
Robin Walker (CONSERVATIVE)
Ben Wallace (CONSERVATIVE)
David Warburton (CONSERVATIVE)
Matt Warman (CONSERVATIVE)
Giles Watling (CONSERVATIVE)
Helen Whately (CONSERVATIVE)
Craig Whittaker (CONSERVATIVE)
Bill Wiggin (CONSERVATIVE)
Gavin Williamson (CONSERVATIVE)
Mike Wood (CONSERVATIVE)
William Wragg (CONSERVATIVE)
Jeremy Wright (CONSERVATIVE)

Gregory Campbell (DUP)
Nigel Dodds (DUP)
Sir Jeffrey M. Donaldson (DUP)
Paul Girvan (DUP)
Ian Paisley (DUP)
Emma Little Pengelly (DUP)
Gavin Robinson (DUP)
Jim Shannon (DUP)
David Simpson (DUP)
Sammy Wilson (DUP)

[CMcK]

I've been saying for years that political parties should be banned. MPs are supposed to be there to represent their constituents wishes. Perhaps being a MP could be made into a form of civil service something like jury duty?

[Cassius_Smoke]

That list of MPs needs to be projected in to the sky like the ****ing batsign until the end of time. Clap on the doorstep of number 10 all you want.