United Kingdom VI: Summer Lovin'

[cutmymilk]

We don't make anything. Hence the need for the coffee shops to be trading with city workers otherwise the economy will totally collapse!

[MartyG]

We still manufacture quite a wide range of products, but the economy is mostly services based now. It's about a 85:15 split.

Bear in mind that things like TV production and videogames and the sales of those (which accounts for a fair chunk of exports) counts towards services - which kind of dance the line between the two.

[Neon Ignition]

The Tories are so keen on No Deal but it's hard to work out the answer to the key question: What does Pret a Manger stand to gain from it?

[Hirst]

The government won't be having their "oven-ready" Brexit deal, so they will get their cookers back.

[Cassius_Smoke]

The Tories are so keen on No Deal but it's hard to work out the answer to the key question: What does Pret a Manger stand to gain from it?

The way I see it is that when pret gets into serious trouble, an equity firm will buy them for a £1. They'll then sell everything. Properties Pret owns. The tables and chairs, equipment the lot. Making millions in the process.
Now imagine that hundreds of companies go the same way due to no deal and an equity firm owned by, say, Boris and friends buys them all and melts them down. They stand to make a hell of a lot.
Pret will die, but Boris and friends will be fine.

I should add, that the pound will drop sharply so they'll want to convert the pounds into to euros and get it in to Monaco quickly to avoid tax. Also if they can filter it through a charity on the way, even better.

[Asura]

So, something I don't get:

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So firstly, to get this out of the way, I'm thankful that COVID deaths in the UK have not been as high as they could've been.

But that aside, if the cases have been going up since July, why are the deaths and hospital patients still trending down? Is that just because we're more aware of the disease, so fewer cases are progressing to a dangerous level?

[CMcK]

It appears the virus might be weakening which would make sense given the proportional drop in deaths.

[Dogg Thang]

So, something I don't get:

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So firstly, to get this out of the way, I'm thankful that COVID deaths in the UK have not been as high as they could've been.

But that aside, if the cases have been going up since July, why are the deaths and hospital patients still trending down? Is that just because we're more aware of the disease, so fewer cases are progressing to a dangerous level?

Much more of the cases are younger people, who are less likely to die from it. Old people are generally being more careful because they know they are at risk. Younger people are not being careful. So a higher percentage of people who are less at risk are being infected now. We have the same here, as my mum likes to remind me as she gives me an earful - older people are basically having to stay more locked up because younger people are going out and getting infected, meaning a riskier environment out there.

Also many care homes were annihilated early on and those people can’t die twice.

[MartyG]

But that aside, if the cases have been going up since July, why are the deaths and hospital patients still trending down? Is that just because we're more aware of the disease, so fewer cases are progressing to a dangerous level?

The way deaths are counted has changed, they only count if they happen within 28 days of a positive test now, so keep them on a vent for 29 days and win. Deaths also lag behind infections and older people are still shielding so younger people socialising who are less likely to be severely ill take up a larger percentage of infections. The scale on the graphs also hides the increases compared to the infections.

[Dogg Thang]

Yep, all of that too.

[Neon Ignition]

Yep, the Government rigged the statistics in their favour on deaths weeks ago. It's a completely unreliable number now and where infections in younger people rise deaths in older people are sure to follow. That and there's a natural lag in the death rate, so the infections of today are the deaths of a month or two from now with only a small percentage being acknowledged in the figures. They're also bad in this country for downplaying the health risks of COVID, no info on the number of people who have already been left with long term or life long health difficulties from it as a result of infection. Despite a lot of discussion on the matter amongst the public and some media sites the virus hasn't mutated in any meaningful way. A small outbreak of a variant is said to have emerged in Indonesia but that version is supposed to be much worse than the standard COVID-19, not better.

In essence the situation is:

May - Warned the UK would be ****** in the Winter if it eased restrictions
June - Warned the UK would be ****** in the Winter as it eased restrictions
July - Heavily warned the UK would ****** in the Winter as it removed almost every remaining restriction
Aug - Warned the UK was going to be imminently ****** in the Winter as we encouraged social activities and bunched on beaches
Sep - UK begins to wonder why no-one warned it was beginning to look ****** for the Winter as even more social distancing is dropped
Oct - UK is ******

Seriously, cancel any big plans you have for Christmas. Hope the summer half empty summer beer gardens were worth it.

[cutmymilk]

Well, that's me. 14 days self isolation time.

[Anpanman]

Much more of the cases are younger people, who are less likely to die from it. Old people are generally being more careful because they know they are at risk. Younger people are not being careful. So a higher percentage of people who are less at risk are being infected now. We have the same here, as my mum likes to remind me as she gives me an earful - older people are basically having to stay more locked up because younger people are going out and getting infected, meaning a riskier environment out there.

Also many care homes were annihilated early on and those people can’t die twice.

We've basically said as much, sadly the infirm plus the obesers and others who are most at risk have already died and it looks to be those under 50 who are catching/spreading it about.

We've seen bad behaviour from the clubbers on some of the Greek islands and even England footballers over the past week or so who basically don't give a stuff about the rest of us.

[Asura]

We've basically said as much, sadly the infirm plus the obesers and others who are most at risk have already died and it looks to be those under 50 who are catching/spreading it about.

We've seen bad behaviour from the clubbers on some of the Greek islands and even England footballers over the past week or so who basically don't give a stuff about the rest of us.

Yeah; though I don't want to demonise "young people" over it when we're talking "people under 50".

Kids have just gone back to school. Let's see where things are in a month.

[MartyG]

Those 45-50 year olds better be taking care, the stats show the risk increases significantly at 45+ and spirals from there.