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Emergency talks about the French travel ban is to take place but Parliament won't be recalled to deal with the mounting issues
Despite calls from MP's Johnson rejects any notion of extending EU trade talks beyond new year with Starmar saying no extension should be needed, Johnson should be delivering the deal he claimed he had a year ago
Rolling live coverage as lorry drivers banned from France because of new coronavirus strain and US agrees stimulus package
Whilst the new COVID mutation causes the markets to freefall
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Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Posthttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...w-covid-strain
EU states begin banning UK travel due to the new COVID strain.
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How do people know what version of C-19 they've had and whether this 'new' mutation is the really cause of the spike? It seems like a mighty convenient excuse and mitigation for the government to backtrack on their "tierribble" decision to attempt to 'save Christmas'.
As I said earlier on here I've just had C-19, first symptoms almost exactly 5 weeks ago now. Still not got my sense of smell and taste back 100% (est.75%) and the regular, almost uncontrollable coughing, which is what takes it out of you and was, for me, the worst part of the 'experience', has lingered on, although in much reduced form, too
The fact is I cannot have caught it from direct human contact but does that indicate it was this more easily transmitted strain? It does seem to be more centred on London (where I am) and the SE of England in general. But did I have the new version or just vanilla C-19 and does it really matter if the symptoms are more or less the same: a mild annoyance for most, a nightmare for the unfortunate others?Last edited by fallenangle; 22-12-2020, 23:48.
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As far as I understand it, the new strain has been around since September. The testing that's taking place to determine whether you have Covid19 or not also indicates to the testers which strain you have. They don't tell you or me because it's unimportant to us. They've gradually seen the rise in the new strain through the testing.
As far as symptoms and lethality, they are both the same so far.
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For me, I look at the graph with the new variant and then remove that. It then shows covid decreasing which seems really bloody unlikely.
So the new variant is not spreading in a way that suggests that if it were not there, then things would be ok.
Covid only spreads if there is a transmission vector and if there isn't one, then it won't.
A ferrari stuck in traffic is going through that traffic at the same speed as a trabant.
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What do you get when you get the exit of Dominic Cummings, a year of economic downturn, a new recession, billions in economic support spent, a horizon with a sea of medical supply needs, collapsing businesses, a loss of a key trade partner and the utter implosion of your original planned series of events?
An EU Trade Deal? The ERG are said to already be circling the text to find issue - doubtful they have the ammo they once did though to stop it if comes to pass.
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My top up before Xmas supermarket Tesco shop yesterday was interesting - place was busy but not as much as would normal two days before Xmas. No sign, whilst I was there, of anyone abusing the product rationing rules.
However the hoarders had clearly been active (most flour gone) and a lot of rice and pasta shelves virtually empty. Pre-packaged 'speciality' bread too; I usually make my own bread but without proper bread flour that's not been possible for long periods in the last year so I've been buying Polish sourdough. Chleb Babuni (Granny bread) which is a sourdough/granary loaf made in a fairly local bakery. That was mostly gone.
Less salt/no preservatives than most UK breads so best to freeze it. Makes great thin toast ideal for crushed grilled avocado with cheese and poached egg on top. Its the only thing those of us who live south of Watford have for lunch now. What we're going to eat instead I can't think: asparagus, smoked salmon and quails eggs perhaps.
Anyway I see buying locally (Wembley) made bread as supporting local industry so I'm a bit pissed off its been cleared from the shelves by scumbag hoarders.
However what I also noticed is that a lot of yogurt products had gone missing too. That has never happened during the previous lockdowns so I'm thinking that it is a clear sign some things are being delayed by the hold ups at the container and cross channel ports too.
Come January, without a Brexit deal, that maybe an early taste of what we're in for with some other foodstuffs coming into and leaving the UK.Last edited by fallenangle; 24-12-2020, 12:01.
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The new third version of COVID-19 might be even easier to transmit than the previous two, may be more aggressive against younger people, easier to reinfect past sufferers and also more resistent to the vaccines according to early analysis by South African scientists where the strain has first been identified. The latest strain has reached the UK with two cases so far identified.
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Ursula von der Leyen says ‘it is time to leave Brexit behind’; Labour will back deal when parliament returns next week, says Keir Starmer
Confirmation expected within the coming hours
Despite how this will pan out with the ERG etc I imagine that scrambling to drag together a deal before deadline in the aftermath of Cummings era will have Johnson feeling like this today:
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