Originally posted by MartyG
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No fishbowlhalffull, that's not what was said.
He's already not getting away with everything - he's lost his PGA tour date as it's been taken away from his golf course - Trump likes the prestige, taking that away from someone who's so narcassistic is going to sting, hard. He's losing his big financial donors, which will hurt his campaigning. He's been kicked off most of the social media platforms which really limits his ability to reach people.
And it's likely that trying to pardon himself will be legally challenged and won due to the "judge/jury" fundamental of law. Even if he is able to pardon himself, it will NOT stop prosecution outside the Federal and the district of Colombia jurisdiction, or civil prosecutions - and as has already been established, there are six such prosecutions waiting for when he leaves office currently (sitting presidents cannot be charged outside of impeachment).
In terms of pardoning someone who's not yet been convicted, yes, you can (Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon in just this way). The president cannot pardon for crimes that have not yet been committed though, so he cannot give someone blanket immunity for all time.
Like it or not, Trump is still entitled to due process.
He's already not getting away with everything - he's lost his PGA tour date as it's been taken away from his golf course - Trump likes the prestige, taking that away from someone who's so narcassistic is going to sting, hard. He's losing his big financial donors, which will hurt his campaigning. He's been kicked off most of the social media platforms which really limits his ability to reach people.
And it's likely that trying to pardon himself will be legally challenged and won due to the "judge/jury" fundamental of law. Even if he is able to pardon himself, it will NOT stop prosecution outside the Federal and the district of Colombia jurisdiction, or civil prosecutions - and as has already been established, there are six such prosecutions waiting for when he leaves office currently (sitting presidents cannot be charged outside of impeachment).
In terms of pardoning someone who's not yet been convicted, yes, you can (Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon in just this way). The president cannot pardon for crimes that have not yet been committed though, so he cannot give someone blanket immunity for all time.
Like it or not, Trump is still entitled to due process.
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