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Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Posthttps://www.theverge.com/2021/11/10/...tor-protection
Starting today Youtube is to hide all videos dislikes, allowing only the video creators to see them
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They do serve a purpose, I think, for YouTube.
YouTube gauges much of a video's success by engagement, which is often taken to mean "views" and "like-dislike ratio" as this is public information. The other stuff creators see is private. These values are actually used by companies who want to pay content creators for things like sponsorships (as they have to infer success & influence somehow).
The problem is, without dislikes being public, a video with tons of views could be considered successful - but with dislikes being public, a video with a million views and half a million dislikes is clearly a controversial/disliked topic.
The problem is that when you click on a YouTube video, you don't really know what's in it. The dislike button lets me say "I've added +1 to views, but I dislike this and I want other people to know that".
I really think they shouldn't get rid of them. It's not for any of the positive reasons people give; it's because corporate partners can be embarrassed by it, and that's why we really should want it to stay!
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Except that's not really how it works - people like James Stephanie Sterling get massive dislike counts simply because she came out as non-binary. Content can be excellent and still be disliked bombed.
And as stated, they can already be turned off, so if a channel is particularly controversial, they aren't publically visible anyway.
Corporate partners don't assign adverts to videos, it's done by YT's algorithm and the counts still exist - it's more weighted towards keywords they do/don't want to be associated with and in terms of engagement, like/dislike ratio doesn't matter - the totals of these combined is higher engagement as far as the algorithm is concerned so is more likely to be bumped to the home page if either/both of these are high. So if anyone wants to go to my channel and like or dislike or leave a comment and don't forget to subscribe and ding that bell - it all helps me rank up
It's another storm in a teacup.Last edited by MartyG; 11-11-2021, 14:25.
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Originally posted by MartyG View PostCorporate partners don't assign adverts to videos, it's done by YT's algorithm and the counts still exist - it's more weighted towards keywords they do/don't...
That's how they earn proper money, and those companies often evaluate whether to work with a creator based on that publicly accessible information.
Though the case with Sterling, they earn their money primarily through Patreon. And yes, it is **** that they drew so much ire when they came out.
I mean, this is definitely better for content creators. It's just some content creators are major corporate partners like EA getting tons of dislikes on videos about injecting gambling into their games, and that's the reason YT are doing it.
EDIT: To clarify, you can earn fair wedge from the automated YouTube ads. It's just that by the time you're doing this, your operation has probably grown to the point where it's a full-time job for multiple people, and it's nowhere near enough for that.Last edited by Asura; 11-11-2021, 14:37.
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Originally posted by MartyG View PostThen I'd suggest it's even more important not to show them, that way coorporate partners can start making a judgement on the actual content, rather than the like/dislike ratio that is influenced by other things, often completely unrelated
I just really like the idea that in a world where the consumer can't really do much other than consume, the dislike button was at least a small way for the general public to give Activisition and the like a bloody nose if they do something ****ty.
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