United Kingdom VII: Taking Pride in Your Success

[Cassius_Smoke]

I think the Tory party now have the highest number of seats in their history. Having this many seats means we won't see anything other than a Tory government for at least 2 more elections.

[Neon Ignition]

It's more Trumpism, a growing majority who just ignore or don't care about morals, conduct, corruption or any other aspects of incompetence. It's like how often someone says that the government has handled COVID really well. They haven't, it's been an utter ----show. That opinion rests solely on the vaccination rollout which has sod all to do with the government, them just cashing in on the sheer blind luck that a UK lab worked out a vaccine fast.


It takes an absolute staggering utter moron of a Northerner to think the Tories are going to ever do anything positive so the red wall seems to exist out of sheer blatant lingering Brexit racism at this point. It's clear Labour has no momentum at all and trying to pin on Tory sleaze isn't going to work. Best to wait another year or two then hone in on promising to deliver what the Tories inevitably fail to do.

[cutmymilk]

Well, the hail mary paid off. That vaccine could have been a disaster but Boris took a punt and luckily it seems to be working out.

If we were in the EU still we wouldn't be anywhere near where we are with the vaccine rollout.

[MartyG]

That opinion rests solely on the vaccination rollout which has sod all to do with the government, them just cashing in on the sheer blind luck that a UK lab worked out a vaccine fast.

That's not really accurate. The UK had secured vaccines from other sources and started a rollout before most other countries. The AZ vaccine helped, but the rollout would have happened with or without it and would still have been ahead of most of the globe. The vaccine rollout has been one of the better jobs the government has overseen, it's just the rest of it that's been utter pants.

[Lebowski]

The reason the Tory's do so well is the public are constantly fed how bad things would be under a Labour government, its a sad state of affairs that the rampant cronyism hasn't even so much as caused even a small dent to their popularity, they must be feeling pretty invincible at the moment so no doubt we will see even more money going to Tory backed company's.

The sad thing is we have a broken Labour party with half its members wanting Cobrny like socialist leadership and the other wanting a return to the Blair days with Stammer, creating a coup in their party and outing Corbyn clearly hasn't worked if the local results are to be belived.

The Tory arent that strong either Johnson seems ineffective and lost as do most of his cabinet but they seem to be getting a free pass at the moment to pretty much do whatever they like which is worrying.

[Lebowski]

That's not really accurate. The UK had secured vaccines from other sources and started a rollout before most other countries. The AZ vaccine helped, but the rollout would have happened with or without it and would still have been ahead of most of the globe. The vaccine rollout has been one of the better jobs the government has overseen, it's just the rest of it that's been utter pants.

The only reason they where able to roll stuff out this fast was because of the NHS, which they have underfunded and ****ed about with for years. i get the impression that the only reason they rushed through vaccines is to get the plebs back to work as it was costing themselves and their Tory donors too much money.

[Neon Ignition]

The trouble with them securing the vaccines though is that it was less a smart strategy and more a fortunate result of their appaling approach to spending. They've thrown billions down the gutter during the last 18 months on loads of failed projects and initiatives. Whilst it's all worked out in the end due to the rollout it coudl have easily gone the other way (and likely won't be so quick to deal with next time).

The Tories are like if they were a guy who says 'look how amazing I am' because he's won the £2,000,000 jackpot on the lottery. But his strategy has been to spend £45,000,000 buying tickets for the drawer covering every combination.

Not that it will ever affect this Government but everyone should have the fear of god in them about what's going to happen when the next pandemic hits. The general global picture has been soul crushing and this one has ended faster than will happen next time with a virus that is a drop in the ocean next to what could and likely would spread in future.

[wheelaa]

Few things more salty than a BD UK thread after some election malarkey hahaha!

As an aside, first time I haven't voted whatsoever since I turned voting age.

Tories - well, see this thread.
Lib Dems - lying c notes.
Labour - I could never vote for a bunch of jew hating cockwombles with a collective IQ lower my daily dump.

[MartyG]

The trouble with them securing the vaccines though is that it was less a smart strategy and more a fortunate result of their appaling approach to spending.

How else would they have precured them without spending money on them? I'm all in favour of bashing Johnson and the government when it's deserved - I'm not going to criticise spending the public purse to get the country vaccinated. Edging the bets in this case was completely sensible - had only one of those vaccines delivered and the UK hadn't ordered it, we'd be further up schikt creek than we are now.

[Neon Ignition]

I don't begrudge them that they bought them, just that buying the vaccine wasn't an accomplishment just a given. The only credit to it is they weren't as slow to place an order as the EU was. It's a very small accomplishment in a sea of failures by a government who's moral and actionable failures are being handwaved away by the public who wrongly attribute the pandemic ending to being thanks to Johnson.

[Golgo]

I keep reading commentary saying that Labour will never regain the 'Red Wall' that went Brexit and now Tory until it stops characterising them as gullible, uneducated racists. That's quite the conundrum.

[Lebowski]

Labour - I could never vote for a bunch of jew hating cockwombles with a collective IQ lower my daily dump.

The Daily mail website has been in contact and their missing an angry gammon

[wheelaa]

Hahahaha.

Now why would you be on their contact list? Hmmm? HMMMM? Ahaaa!!!

[Lebowski]

Hahahaha.

Now why would you be on their contact list? Hmmm? HMMMM? Ahaaa!!!

It's a care in the community thing i like to volunteer to help the poor souls over their from wandering off their easily confused and taken advantage of

[wheelaa]

Luring people to the 'acceptable side' of racism. Most noble of you haha.

I do feel bad I didn't vote for some of the nonpartisan candidates...long queue though and I had a date with a chicken saag and sides.