Originally posted by Neon Ignition
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Mogg is actually interested in introducing the Empirial System
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He would have to have some semblance of intelligence and actually do half a day’s work to organise anything like that. Easier to cream off the profits of your energy firm pals and sit back -
Children of the 90s were explicitly not taught them, though.Originally posted by fallenangle View Post
Like we were instructed at school to not learn them. Segments of our maths textbooks which focused on Imperial were skipped over, with this instruction, that we should endeavour not to learn them because their time was over and the world needed to move forwards.
Of course, I can work in Imperial distances to a degree, because I've driven a car, played golf, etc. - but I've had zero practice in converting one unit to another, and in terms of weight/volume, if you ask me to guess how much is a stone or a gallon, I literally have no idea - like you might just as easily ask me to guess a Cubit or Libra; I've no idea how much they are. Pint is the only one I could make a reasonable guess at, for obvious reasons
If a butchers near me changed to only using Imperial measures, I would seriously stop going there. I wouldn't know what to order or how much.
Moving back to Imperial is a certain kind of evil; and I don't use that word lightly. It's literally undertaken by someone who, in their heart of hearts, in their most soundness of mind, truly knows that, regardless all the other problems and imperfections that mankind must wrestle with in 2022, that behind us lies darkness, bafflement and ignorance, and before us, if we can navigate the difficult future ahead, could lie a time of progress, peace and the pursuit of the truly great mysteries of the universe - and that adopting the practices of a century ago, purely out of either a desire to divide people, or of a bizarre fetish, is, if only the teeniest, tiniest bit, turning that arrow of progress away from that bright future just a couple of degrees. And it's done because, despite the fact that they are fully aware of this, that this benefits that person and their ilk in some selfish, self-serving, perverse way.
It's, quite literally, taking what mankind has strived and fought and died for, and throwing a brick through that stained glass window for no compelling reason.Comment
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We live in an international world, certain things are going to become standardised as time passes whether MP's like it or not. Fighting it will just double down people doing business elsewhereComment
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The problem is people. Have you met them? They're a bit ****.Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
There are far to many of them that would rather use Imperial Measures, drive their business into the ground, then spend years bitterly wailing about how their business failed because of everyone else.Comment
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No need.Originally posted by fishbowlhead View Post
Didn't he move his private hedge fund to the Republic of Ireland in, y'know, the continent of Europe that the UK didn't need to be part of anymore?Comment
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Casual use of imperial measures will continue simply because we do live in a dual system world and I'd admit the over 50s who were taught under both systems have an advantage because conversion between the two was part and parcel of our education.
When metrication of the currency occurred in 1971 everyone from school kids upwards were provided with conversion tables for months before and after to ease the transition. You soon learned to do the conversions in your head or you just knew that a 6d bag of crisps was now 2.5p ('new' pence as it was still being called for years afterwards). It became second nature but, eventually, with time, there was no necessity to convert because there was no old currency being used.
That is not the case with other weights and measures and one reason why we still have a dual system for all those things previously listed and more. Another comes to mind: a person's height is still casually referred to in feet simply because it is easier to understand someone being described as over six feet means they are tall.
If they did not know that was the equivalent of 180cm and that figure was used instead it would be almost meaningless for millions of people. Smaller numbers are always better for casual general use and why the imperial units are still preferred for those uses,
How difficult is it to remember that 25.4mm = 1" , 1 km is 5/8th of a mile and there are, roughly, 2.2 lbs to the kilo?
From those basic conversion 'formulas' you're good for most casual use purposes. As long as you know there are 12" in a foot, 3 feet in a yard, 1760 yards in a mile and 16oz in a lb there's little mental arithmetic anguish involved. We've also had electronic calculators available from the mid 70s onward so it takes very little effort to convert something if required.Comment
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My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I like it.Comment
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That's true but I assume will often skew older. Younger people, even if taught it at schools, will grow up and work in an environment where the rest of the world is constantly at their door step saying 'know this instead'Originally posted by Asura View PostComment
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This is the point. No-one's saying we can't learn to use Imperial Measures; but can we at least agree, even just here, that it's worse? Even if you feel it's only a tiny bit worse. A smidge. But it's worse. It's regressive. And if you believe it's "just as good", even then, we should just stick with what we have.Originally posted by Hirst View PostComment
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Imperial is just crap full stop, needs to stay dead. I see what moggy has done though trying to shift attention away from all the corruption & energy crysis, nice try.Originally posted by Asura View PostComment
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An increasingly desperate Britain considers joining an 'EU lite' initiative, but pretends to be 'seeking assurances'...you know, for the Mail and Express readers...
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We learned both metric and imperial at primary school, in fact I recall mum still using sixpences when I was little (only found out much later it was because we didn't swap all the parking meters over to decimal currency until 1980). As an engineer and learning it at university, unit conversion is a way of life, so it all comes naturally. Even though the missus is only a year younger than me, she struggles with anything imperial outside what's mentioned above, peoples' heights and weights, and road distances.Lie with passion and be forever damned...Comment
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Whatever your opinion, it is unlikely to be proposed as a serious policy (yet), even with that consultation.
Mogg has a weird role as an MP in that he mainly exists for the purpose of soliciting donations for the party from his investment banker friends. In return, they let him “play” at being an MP – kind of a combination of a weird hobby and a way to protect the interests of him and his friends.
The wider party are fully aware that he is an embarrassment, but take advantage of his stupid nonsense as a convenient distraction by amplifying it through their press connections when it suits them – which he revels in as an attention-seeker who loves stirring the pot. Unfortunately for them, he has gradually moved towards the front purely by being somebody they can rely on to back any policy or position – no matter how stupid or immoral.
I still doubt even if it was pushed hard that there would be even the tiniest chance we would move back to imperial any further than what exists already. Maybe a small chance imperial-only would be allowed at the choice of the seller in some limited use cases like somebody selling fruit on the local market. Enough that they can say “we’ve listened” without really doing anything.Comment
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The privitisation of Channel 4 and the scrapping of the BBC license fee are getting yet another review from the Government as it ponders what to u-turn on and what not toComment
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Wow. Well if they like the sound of that, wait until they learn of the 'Full fat' version!Originally posted by Golgo View PostComment
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