Seeing more stuff about Truss/no confidence letters.
"Strong and stable", am I right? Good job we didn't get that "Coalition of Chaos".
"Strong and stable", am I right? Good job we didn't get that "Coalition of Chaos".
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Labour delegates vote to support PR
Two mortgage lenders withdraw deals for new customersComment
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YouGov poll puts Labour 17 points ahead of the Tories
Truss meanwhile races to congratulate the far right new leader of Italy
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Genuinely very surprised – it’s usually the traditionalist, trade union wing of the party that resists putting electoral reform on the Labour policy platform!Originally posted by Nu-Eclipse View PostComment
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It's deeply reassuring that the consevatives, have come out fighting, righting the wrongs of the Conservatives hopefully the conservatives can fix the mess the conservatives created by trying something new.... oh its trying trickle down economics again after it worked so well last time. No doubt this extra money the top earners are now getting will be invested in foreign markets as investing it in UK would be a stupid thing to do now that the pound is tanking, but hey at least their spending.
We really are in the dregs of the Tory party aren't we one week it took in power to completely crash the economy as if we didn't have enough to deal with already they ran in and said hold my coat you haven't seen anything yet, the hilarious thing is we didn't need to borrow to subsidies energy bills if we had imposed windfall taxes like France Germany ect and left the tax rates alone we wouldn't be seeing a situation where interests rates have to start climbing to cover the governments fiscal illiteracy.Comment
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What's really worrying is that they've elected some real losers here.Originally posted by Lebowski View Post
I don't mean that in a moral or ethical sense. The thing for the Tories is that, historically, they have a specific view of government - they don't feel it's the government's job to "look after" or "take care of" the people. They feel it's the government's job to maintain order, and to deal with external and civil defense, but they don't, for example, truly believe in the NHS.
Instead they believe their job is to create a prosperous society, with the ability to generate wealth, and to expect the public to take care of themselves, made easier by those prosperous conditions.
So when they remove the laws that prevent people dumping sewage into rivers, the reasoning is meant to be that the public will oppose this if they really care about it, and civil action will prevent it.
To be clear, like most people, I find this attitude callous, selfish and hoplessly naive. The public simply doesn't have the power to deal with the problems of the modern world, because so many of them (the water quality one is a great example) require collective action that only the government can coordinate. The libertarian idea of "you do what you want and don't tell me what to do" simply doesn't work unless you genuinely want a dog-eat-dog society.
But the worst part of all this is that the present government can't even execute upon their own philosophy in an effective manner. Killing the means of protest is an example; you can't have "small government" which is also enforcing much of people's day-to-day lives. It's nonsensical. Even by their own standards they're failing.
What I'm saying is that it's a bad plan executed badly. Which is kinda the most damning thing I can say.Comment
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The number of mortgage deals pulled from the market rises from 2 to 300Comment
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If I was watching this unfold as part of a historical documentary about the failings of another country's corrupt and/or incompetent officials, it'd be fascinating to watch.
However, we're bloody living it.Comment
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Is there a point at which a General Election is triggered by default? Like an 'incompetence line', or something? Because I'm worried the Tories will hold on as long as possible, knowing they're up for defeat, even though this would entail ongoing untold damage to the country.Comment
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Nope. In fact the idiots in charge have to actually call it. I mean I'd question what happens if they just never call an election?Originally posted by Golgo View PostComment
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Not by default, there's no means to do that. It'll only happen if the PM calls a snap election before December 2024, or before then if enough Tory MPs vote to bring down their own government.Originally posted by Golgo View PostComment
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Can only happen if the Commons were to vote to force it, which, as the Tories have won FPTP, means their own MPs would have to rebel.Originally posted by Golgo View PostComment
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Unfortunate own goal from Labour here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63050482
I get her point, that Kwarteng is more sympathetic to the Eton and financial elite than to the Black British community, but her wording was fumbled and horribly off. A true wordsmith like Benjamin Zephaniah could pull it off with: "the strangest animal I've ever seen is the Black Tory."
Leadership did the right thing by suspending her at once (Johnson wouldn't have), but the Tory press will in their desperation blow this up like crazy for tomorrow's front pages.Comment
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And here we go making a massive deal about one person’s words. Irrelevant compared to binning 45% tax bracket. Let’s get back to that. I’m so angry I’m scaring myself right now.Comment
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I genuinely don't believe there has been a worse parliament in the history of the UK.
The shear hubris and ineptitude of this government I don't think has ever been seen before. Willful negligence.Comment
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