The War in Ukraine

[briareos_kerensky]

Russians retreat from Kherson and the left bank of the river Dnieper, setting up defences on the right bank.

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[fishbowlhead]

Ukraine should slaughter as many as possible on Russia's retreat, wipe every single one out, will save digging them out later on when they have fortified over the winter on the other side of the river, which will be much, much bloodier.

[Cassius_Smoke]

Ukraine should slaughter as many as possible on Russia's retreat, wipe every single one out, will save digging them out later on when they have fortified over the winter on the other side of the river, which will be much, much bloodier.

Art of War says never attack a retreating army. They fight with nothing to lose and it makes you look like the aggressor.

Let they regroup and kill them later with long range ordinance.

I believe that river runs all the way to the border of Russia, so if they can keep pushing them back they'll split the remaining forces North and South, effectively corralling them in.

[QualityChimp]

Ukraine should slaughter as many as possible on Russia's retreat, wipe every single one out, will save digging them out later on when they have fortified over the winter on the other side of the river, which will be much, much bloodier.

Ah jeez, man.
That's a bit dark.

[fishbowlhead]

Art of War says never attack a retreating army. They fight with nothing to lose and it makes you look like the aggressor.

Let they regroup and kill them later with long range ordinance.

I believe that river runs all the way to the border of Russia, so if they can keep pushing them back they'll split the remaining forces North and South, effectively corralling them in.

Errr no, you don't let a retreating army escape only to dig in and cost way more lives later on.

[Neon Ignition]

They should just continue to minimise their own casualities. Even if Russia plans to regroup and launch a major offensive on them, their gross incompetence will mean it will likely fail

[Cassius_Smoke]

There is no point chasing them all across a river and gunning them down.
Better to wait for winter to really pull them apart. And anyway It's not like a Russian offensive has really worked.
If they can continue to get support and keep up the pressure, they'll have them out by April. Then the Nato stamp of approval comes down.

[Neon Ignition]

The Tories in PMQs

[Brad]

Errr no, you don't let a retreating army escape only to dig in and cost way more lives later on.

Sadly, there's no room for sympathy in war :-(

[fishbowlhead]

From the reports I've read Russia has mined every square inch of Kherson in an obvious bait and trap in order to bog Ukraine down in the rubble. Not quite sure what their going to do with it, with the Russians on the other side digging in and will obviously try to use the city as a turkey shoot, plus all the explosive traps laid, it may be more trouble than its worth as a position.

[Cassius_Smoke]

From the reports I've read Russia has mined every square inch of Kherson in an obvious bait and trap in order to bog Ukraine down in the rubble. Not quite sure what their going to do with it, with the Russians on the other side digging in and will obviously try to use the city as a turkey shoot, plus all the explosive traps laid, it may be more trouble than its worth as a position.

That'll be nice for children to find in a couple of decades

[Wools]

Sources on the BBC have said that Poland has been hit by a Russian missle, killing 2 people.

People have said it's a stray missle rather than targeted, sources have not been fully confirmed as of yet.

[fishbowlhead]

Seeing this pop up everywhere now, Russia have f****d up now.

[briareos_kerensky]

The series of events sound straight out of Doctor Strangelove.

The G-20 are meeting in Bali.
Zelensky lays out 10 points to end hostilities:

1. Radiation and nuclear safety.
2. Food security.
3. Energy security.
4. Release of all prisoners and deported persons.
5. Implementation of the UN Charter and restoration of Ukraine’s territorial integrity and the world order.
6. Withdrawal of Russian troops and cessation of hostilities.
7. Restoration of justice.
8. Countering ecocide.
9. Preventing escalation.
10. Confirmation of the end of the war.

According to RIA Novosti, a Russian state media outlet, the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs responds with:

We want to see concrete evidence that the West is seriously interested in disciplining Zelensky and explaining to him that this cannot continue, that this is not in the interests of the Ukrainian people and himself

while missiles struck several Ukranian cities. The power grid in some cities has almost completely collapsed and several civilian houses have been hit.

I really hope the G-20 settle on more than just sanctions.

[fishbowlhead]

“We want to see concrete evidence that the West is seriously interested in disciplining Zelensky and explaining to him that this cannot continue, that this is not in the interests of the Ukrainian people and himself“

Just the most ridiculous thing i think I’ve ever read. It’s literally a case of school yard bully has picked on someone for years, the kid that was being picked on has grown up a bit and been trained by some mates from another school, and finally smashed the bully’s teeth out. Bully doesn’t like loosing said teeth and is now whinging like a little bitch.

Tell you what Russia, how about you all die instead? Year that sounds like a solid plan.