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Originally posted by fishbowlhead View PostThats the whole point of it, keep people down and living beyond their means.
Also, @Hirst is right about Linehan. It was just bizzarre. Did anyone here, back when forums were the main social thing on the internet circa 2003, ever see someone have a complete and utter meltdown? Like where they posted tons of stuff, quotes within quotes within quotes, seemed to double-triple-quadruple down on eveything...? He did that, but on Twitter, a couple of years ago. From a distance I wondered if he'd had a stroke or something.
The weirdest thing I saw was when someone put a point to him, and he said something like "Not gonna answer someone with a cartoon character avatar", when his own avatar was a cartoon version of himself.Last edited by Asura; 11-10-2022, 15:17.
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Originally posted by Hirst View PostRe: the cancel culture thing earlier. We’re all entitled to an opinion, but that doesn’t mean there are no consequences from it. Always been that way. This isn’t new and it isn’t cancel culture. If you’ve got some public profile – like you’re a celebrity, a writer, an actor – you might need to think more carefully than an ordinary person before expressing an opinion or taking an action that some may find controversial. It comes with the job. Always has done
A good example I can give is one Mr G Linehan, who blames cancel culture for basically his entire life falling apart. In reality, he inexplicably decided to escalate a storm-in-a-teacup Internet argument about an old episode of a TV show into a newfound persona as a madman devoting his entire existence to arguing about something he has very little stake or obvious interest in. Ranting about it on Twitter became pretty much literally all he did, all hours of the day. You could go on at 2am, 3am, 4am – his last post would be seconds away. I’m not exaggerating! Eventually he got banned, largely because he was being more brazen about targeting individuals. Being banned from a website isn’t cancel culture either.
He directly blames cancel culture for his wife and kids leaving him via the financial ruin of him being “cancelled”. I think it was more likely to be that he completely neglected them in favour of arguing on the Internet every day and night, they were just sick of it and him. He must have been completely unbearable to be around, never letting it drop. Not to mention that he was directly threatening their future – earning money from TV shows – by refusing to just draw a line under it. I doubt he’d have even needed to apologise to be honest, just putting a lid on it would probably have done enough. That train left the station years ago though.
He is now currently struggling to get a musical commissioned and blames cancel culture and a conspiracy of radicals working behind the scenes. The truth is likely a lot more dull – it will be a business decision. They probably weighed up the potential returns of his project against the likelihood of bother/low engagement based on the sheer toxicity of his name at this stage, ran some numbers and thought “forget it”. He rants about it daily on largely incomprehensible YouTube videos that get a few thousand views, calling out more successful people who know better than to get dragged into his dirty bathwater.
He just fully went off the deep end. It's really bizarre. His entire life is centred around this crusade against trans people. It's demented.
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Originally posted by wakka View PostHe just fully went off the deep end. It's really bizarre. His entire life is centred around this crusade against trans people. It's demented.
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Most of the well-known Internet people who exist to court controversial opinions, you can see straight through them. It’s a grift, a get rich quick scheme, a way of faded/disgraced people clawing back some kind of relevance.
It is pretty obvious most of the time that they don’t genuinely care that much about most of the things they’re railing against. I’m sure it matches with their overall opinion on it, but you can tell they are exaggerating for effect, their heart isn’t in it that much. It’s just a job!
What makes Linehan morbidly interesting is that you can tell his fury is completely genuine, wherever it comes from. If you ever see him on video, he is spitting mad, eyebrows twitching, hands trembling, looks like he is genuinely about to have a heart attack. He has devoted his entire being to it. I genuinely think he would die for his beliefs.
All over something that never really seemed to have much to do with him, no clear history, no obvious experience, no real stakes other than winning a long-forgotten argument about an episode of a TV show he made over a decade ago. He truly is the king of the Internet hissy-fit.
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One of the few positives about this is that even dyed in the wool Tory members seem to be horrified too. You don't have to be a dirty, lefty liberal like me to be disgusted how right wing and incompetent the current Tories have become; Totally subservient to the companies they’re working for. Well. that's what they thought they wanted...
As the Tories have always been viewed as the party for business, it says something when the banks and markets are pulling away from them, and the IMF are forced to ask them; What the **** are you doing?
Some say this is late-stage capitalism. I say this is extreme corruption combined with a party who are so tied to towing the lines they’ve attempted to align to since Brexit, they don’t know which way is up anymore.
Let’s hope this madness ends soon. With a general election or a civil war, it’s down to the Prime Minister.
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Statement from No 10 comes straight after PM told MPs she was ‘absolutely’ committed to avoiding public spending cuts
Johnson was felled by his outright lies and Truss and Co. won't be making the same mistake. Instead they will rely on gaslighting the nation as Mogg attempts to steer blame on the current economic crashes on anything but the Government and its mini-budget
Statement from No 10 comes straight after PM told MPs she was ‘absolutely’ committed to avoiding public spending cuts
Meanwhile Economists inform the treasury that the Government was precisely to blame for the turmoil
Statement from No 10 comes straight after PM told MPs she was ‘absolutely’ committed to avoiding public spending cuts
Truss says the Government will ban no fault evictions
Statement from No 10 comes straight after PM told MPs she was ‘absolutely’ committed to avoiding public spending cuts
She also says they won't be cutting public spending
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Yep, that's precisely it and as others have said before the act 'cancelling' a career due to a wrongful act has always existed. There are obvious cases where someone evades it or comes back later but there in lies the grey area where exceptions and accounting for an individual's progression lies.
There's definitely an issue with cancel cultures weaponisation but the realities around that are very, very different from the arguments made by the likes of Cleese. It's one thing to have your life destroyed via an effective trial by social media, it's another entirely to simply object to not being allowed to spout all the racist and misogynistic bs you want to
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