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Silvio Berlusconi, the only postwar Italian PM most British people can name, has died at 86. A lecherous billionaire who headed his own national government using populist rhetoric and acting like a geriatric idiot (where else have we seen that since?).
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‘We’re ready’: Miami police prepared for Trump arraignment | Miami | The Guardian
Trump remains upset following days of decrying the legal system as he is seen making his way for another arraignment today in Miami as the next case against him gets set to formally charge him with federal crimes
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The inditement is well worth a read - it's difficult to see how Trump can have a defense against it, given he, and the people that worked for him, stitched themselves up by having photos and texts on their own phones contradicting what they claimed had happened when responding to the grand jury and FBI.
I think Bill Barr (Trump's Attorney General) said it best on Fox News at the w/e ...
Originally posted by Bill BarrLast edited by MartyG; 13-06-2023, 07:37.
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This is a pretty big moment.
This is the first ever federal criminal prosecution against a former US president.
Naturally, the police are prepping for a load of pro-Trump protesters adamant of his innocence.
They probably know Michael Jackson was innocent and there's no smoke without fire for other people, but Don is as straight as an arrow.
Interesting article on how other Republicans reacted to his indictment:
"Former Vice-President Mike Pence, who is now running against his old boss, told a weekend Republican convention that no one was above the law. Then he talked about years of alleged politicisation at the Department of Justice and the failure to prosecute Hillary Clinton."
They're going to take his fingerprints and possibly take his mugshot.
This time it's for hoarding loads of classified documents after his time in office and not being compliant with officers when they raided him and asked for them back.
In the eyes of the law, this is seen as a more serious crime than paying pornstar Stormy Daniels some hush money.
I doubt anything will happen, but it's definitely a future pub quiz question as to who was the first President to be arrested.
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Originally posted by QualityChimp View Postfailure to prosecute Hillary Clinton."
In seriousness, I know Clinton breached protocol by having a private email server instead of one handled by the normal channels, which, admittedly, is a similar issue to what Trump is facing. Was there ever any chance she was going to jail for it? I'm not sure about the relative severity of the actions.
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Originally posted by Asura View PostCouldn't resist a dig, could he
In seriousness, I know Clinton breached protocol by having a private email server instead of one handled by the normal channels, which, admittedly, is a similar issue to what Trump is facing. Was there ever any chance she was going to jail for it? I'm not sure about the relative severity of the actions.
Worth reading this for more info on the indictment:
"Mr Trump has been charged with 37 counts of unauthorised possession of classified material, obstruction of justice, concealing documents and making false statements to law enforcement.
Each of those counts contains penalties that include substantial fines and the possibility of years in prison.
- Missing documents included nuclear secrets
- Trump showed US military plans to visitors
- charges of obstruction of the investigation and lying to and misleading investigators
The indictment included a photograph alleged to show classified documents in a ballroom"
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Originally posted by Asura View PostClinton breached protocol by having a private email server instead of one handled by the normal channels, which, admittedly, is a similar issue to what Trump is facing. Was there ever any chance she was going to jail for it? I'm not sure about the relative severity of the actions.
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Originally posted by MartyG View PostIf Trump had handed back everything as requested when it was requested, he wouldn't be facing any charges. He wanted the trophies. And Clinton wasn't showing battle plans of attacking Iran to all and sundry.
Trumps missing Nuclear documents is the biggest issue here id say, he's either sold it or its been taken from him, he wouldn't of destroyed it he's far to vain.
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