Helldivers 2 (PS5/PC)

[fishbowlhead]

The patrol change to solo's or 2 mans is downright insulting, especially given how unstable the code is and how bad matchmaking is.

[fishbowlhead]

Game is brutal right now with increased bugs in the field, slowdown galore and general glitches. Sigh. I’m taking a break.

[fishbowlhead]

God dammit.

https://youtu.be/jcnzI0gN7z4

[Tobal]

hahaha, you'll been needing to cap those 250 medals.

[Tobal]

we'll have to see how the incoming forced PSN account for steam users debacle plays out. As steam players dwarf the PSN player count it could go poorly, along with people already saying PSN isn't available in there country and the usual PSN account linking being a horrible experience. All for sony to sell data and claim more PSN accounts active for shareholders, stinks of PS3 sony fumes.

[fishbowlhead]

we'll have to see how the incoming forced PSN account for steam users debacle plays out. As steam players dwarf the PSN player count it could go poorly, along with people already saying PSN isn't available in there country and the usual PSN account linking being a horrible experience. All for sony to sell data and claim more PSN accounts active for shareholders, stinks of PS3 sony fumes.

When was this announced?

[fuse]

When was this announced?

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4196868529806518741?l=english

Currently quite a lot of "Not recommended" reviews being filed on Steam...

[Tobal]

I just don't see how they can go through with it in the end simply because PSN just isn't available it alot of countries, and they knowingly let people through the gates, past the refund period before shutting the door.

This doesn't directly effect me outside of sony trying to kill the playerbase off, but all that crap about safety when sony are constantly getting their(our) data hacked and stolen every few years is complete BS.

[fishbowlhead]

Seems this was a requirement from day 1 on pc and asked users from the off, with a lot of people just doing it and being done, others just ignoring it and moving on forgetting. I don't really see the big issue with this tbh, Sea of Thieves on PS5 requires an xbox account, soooooo shrug.

[Tobal]

This is 100% anti consumer and as PS5 player of this game i'm definitely on steam users side. Reddit is full of people investigating and it seems really shifty the way this was done, the entire argument around the defence for this move was a small yellow notice in steam saying "psn account needed", while the EULA for the game never mentions it, and SONY have been caught changing there PC to PSN website for this the day after from 'optional' to 'required'.

AH took advantage of waving people through the gates for easy onboarding on PC, riding an extremely high popularity to sell loads and loads of copies on steam worldwide for over 3 months.. then they will shut the door in July.

My favourite meme so far

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cjp77o/new_helldivers_hotfix/

[fishbowlhead]

Everyone does this now to obtain your data if your not playing on the platform makers machine, as crap as it is this is modern gaming unfortunately, and it was there from day with with a lot of Steam users already done it.

Players may as well stop moaning as they won’t quit, hell, Bungie removed 1/3 of destiny at one point and people carried on.

Storm in a teacup.

[Neon Ignition]

Reading up on it it seems like despite not being the biggest issue practically speaking, it's spiralling fast for Arrowhead.














Recent Reviews listing for the game on Steam has now changed to Mostly Negative following mass review bombing, the All Reviews rating has downgraded to Mixed and perhaps most critical of all - Valve are issuing full refunds to players regardless of the number of hours the user has played.

[Neon Ignition]

https://steamdb.info/sub/137730/history/?changeid=23416542

Sony has updated the Helldivers 2 listing to address the issue.
It's widely expanded the number of countries that the game is banned from sale in to nearly 180
It's not going down well

[nonny]

They made a big mistake not having the PSN requirement at launch. I understand why Sony wants your data and I'd even say that's fair practice as every other major publisher does it.

The main 3 issues are they didn't lock non PSN countries out from purchase, they didn't factor in most PC players don't trust the security of PSN over recent years with all the hacks/breaches... And not having PSN there for all these month all but proves to those against it that it isn't necessary.

If Sony wants to continue making it required for future titles then it has no choice but to enforce it now and remove the game sale in non PSN countries.

Unfortunately you have to wonder whether HD2 would have been so successful on PC had they kept PSN at launch... Didn't they say 70-80% of players are on PC?

[nonny]

Interesting... I've just seen Sucker Punch is dropping it's requirement for PSN on GoT for the single player.

Not sure what this means for the trophy / achievements stuff they were adding but you'd assume that's locked to PSN.