Sega Rally demo (360 & PS3)

[On The Edge of Insanity]

I do have problems with the triggers on games like you mentioned, where they are only being used for quick presses (such as the gear change in F1), but for a racing game, where they are used for long periods of time, I have no problems with them at all.

[Yoshimax]

It's a problem I have with Stardust - the triggers are way too sensitive and just resting my finger naturally on top of the button can trigger a smart-bomb or two.

And the lack of rumble sticks out real bad coming off the 360 version.

[On The Edge of Insanity]

I thought that too, but after a while I was able to adjust to the leeway on the triggers and started to master feathering the throttle.

[MoFo2]

Enjoyed this as well, however I feel that there was little room for accelerating on the PS3-pad: Pressing R2 completely in is full go, but if I ease slightly it almost comes to a halt instead of a little accelerating. (Sorry if this is hard to understand, not so good with words)

Nevertheless, this is just the demo, the complete version should be "perfect"

[On The Edge of Insanity]

I knew the head guy went off to form Q Entertainment when they merged all the teams, but didn't they do the Initial D Stage 4 Arcade game last year? Maybe they've split permanantly since then?

I agree totally that AM#2 should definitely handle the next Outrun or Daytona, or at least Nagoshi's team, as he was heavily involved in Daytona.

Anyways, just played the demo for a hour or so and am really digging it.

When I first started with the out of car view with the Subaru I was truly shocked at the handling and had no control over the vehicle at all. Switched to the bumper-cam though and it was all good.

It doesn't have the same finesse of handling that Sega Rally (and to extent Sega Rally 2) had, but it is still enjoyable arcade style handling, and once you get used to it you'll be up with the front runners in no time. I managed to win both courses once I had the handling sussed.

The defomation not only looks cool, but has a noticeable effect on the racing lines, especially on the last lap, where moving offline on a long corner leaves you sliding around hopelessly, looking for some kind of grip to get you back to the racing line.

Taken on its own merits, this is a quality arcade racer, which I can see being a lot of fun, both in single player and in the online aspect. Compared to Sega Rally 1 and (in the arcade) 2, it doesn't really measure up, but forget the name and you'll have a wail of a time with it.

[Yoshimax]

The cheap cash in on the tenth anniversary of Sega Rally you mean? I don't think they put any time into that, it looked much worse than Sega Rally 2 graphically.

And surely you mean AM5 (i.e. Sega Rosso), as they made Sega Rally 1 and 2.

Yeah that one - regardless of "time put in" it's still a bit off placing all your faith in them when that's was the last thing they output - this is light years ahead of it both in terms of capturing some of the essence of the original and being a game worthy of the name.

and nah - I did mean AM#2 as El Leon was talking about Outrun & Daytona 3 which were both by them - AM5 don't exist anymore afaik

[JP]

I can't remember who asked earlier but I've found some comparison shots for all three versions:

XBox 360

PS3

PSP

I think all three hold up well next to each other and the only problem with the graphics would be if something really stood out against the other two, which doesn't seem to be.

It seems that they run at the same speed also and the decider could well be the PS3 controller for people.

My favourite out of the 3 was actually the PSP version so if I buy one new it may well be that version! These arcade games often feel more suited on a handheld to me.

[rmoxon]

The the control of the cars in the original was pretty lame (I think) - pretty revolutionary at the time, but doesn't really stand up now. This isn't much better. Different though. In my time, I've thrown about £500 into the arcade machine....

edit: to expand (on the original), the sudden switch between grip and drift is disconcerting and had to be constantly predicted.

I'm not sure I agree with the point about the "charm and details". The original was extremely sparse, with huge swathes of track edges completely empty and monotextured if I remember rightly. There seems a lot more going on in this new version, although if you are saying that they could have used the power of the modern consoles to pack even more stuff in there, then I'll conceed there's room for more detail.

All that may be true, but the fact is that they managed to make the orginal Sega Rally steer flawlessly on a saturn pad, and while anyone could play it, like all great racing games it was still hard to master and get the best times.

In Comparison the handling in this game is just too sensitive and not half as fun.

It also seems as impossibley hard as the DC version of Sega Rally 2

[Sane]

I really liked the 360 demo, ended up playing it for 2 hours straight between my friend and me seeing who could get the best time. Definite purchase for me.

[goemon74]

I could also compare the PS3 to the 360 version during the demos, I realized that the PS3 version looks not only better, it also runs a bit smoother than the 360 version (especially when you wait at the beginning of the race when the camera moves around your car). On the other hand the controls with the standard setup in the PS3 version suck, just because the L and R triggers suck (you can really feel your finger is slipping off the button during the race).

[Brad]

I quite liked it. Doesn't look that great; not compared to Motorstorm anyway but the handling was good and that track deformation stuff actually works. By the final lap the car was bumping around as I drove over the trenches caused by the previous laps.

[On The Edge of Insanity]

The cheap cash in on the tenth anniversary of Sega Rally you mean? I don't think they put any time into that, it looked much worse than Sega Rally 2 graphically.

And surely you mean AM5 (i.e. Sega Rosso), as they made Sega Rally 1 and 2.

[Yoshimax]

People moaning about other people talking about the original game and nostalgia, are being stupid. Of course people are going to make comparisons and reminisce.

Wow - Quite an assertion - and totally uncalled for people are entitled to their opinion labelling them stupid is, well, stupid.

I just hope Outrun 3, Daytona3 etc... are made in Japan. Please Sega!

Oh yeah totally but I'd rather they were made by AM#2 so the quality was assured rather than just any "Sega Japan" as the last SEGA RALLY game made by Sega Japan was, well, utter ****e - You seem to have conveniently forgotten to mention it though

[hudson]

Agreed on that. It feels too floaty for me compared to say, Ridge Racer 7.

Isn't that characteristic the essence of Sega Rally?

I likes it, but only in bumper view. Which is a shame as the car models look great.

[MonkeyJuggleDX]

What I'm unsure of is whether I like the way it handles.

Agreed on that. It feels too floaty for me compared to say, Ridge Racer 7. It's like there is no weight to the cars at all and the demo is waaaaaaaay too easy!

Jury is still out on this one so I guess I'll rent/borrow before making my purchase or probably wait and get it pre-owned.