Metal Gear Solid 4

[BeyondJumpFish]

I dunno if its just me but the codec was competly useless in this game! What the hell was with only 2 people to call...and one of them is pointless.

[Rossco]

Yeh I was thinking that the other day, didn't really notice it during my first playthrough as I was that engrossed in it but it was a strange choice not having an army of contacts like the old games on hand to offer funny/witty/helpful comments.

[MikeF]

Finished it last night. Took 20hrs and 2 seconds. Absolutley loved it from start to finish

Have now started a No Alert No Kill run through

Regarding the DS3 in the game

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Did anyone get a black DS3 picture in the Pyscho Mantis cust scene if they were using one, I am using a white one and got the white pic

[smokedog]

Regarding the DS3 in the game

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Did anyone get a black DS3 picture in the Pyscho Mantis cust scene if they were using one, I am using a white one and got the white pic

I also got the white one and I was using the Black DS3.

[Malc]

I enjoyed less codec chatter, I had no problem with it in past MGS games, but alot of codec talk occured whilst playing the game. This helped as it didn't interrupt the flow of the game as much.

[NekoFever]

I haven't got this MGS PS store file thing as I'm on a UK PS3 but should I take it from the lack of any mentions in this that MGAcid 1 and 2 and the Ghost Babel game aren't canon?

Yep. The Acid series, Ghost Babel, and Snake's Revenge are the ones that aren't canon.

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MGS2 jumped the shark, story wise. It was actually pretty daring to feature Solid Snake as a NPC, but the story litterally rendered Shadow Moses useless by making it some exercise that was intented from the start. Which means all that character development (of Mantis, Wolf and Liquid to some extent) was pretty much in vain.

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Shadow Moses did really happen. It was authorised by Solidus (he was president at the time) as a way to undermine the Patriots, and when it went wrong he was forced to resign and hide from them. That's why Raiden was ultimately manipulated into killing him at the end of MGS2.

In that sense, Shadow Moses wasn't intended at all. Not in the sense that it wasn't intended by the Patriots, and also in that FOXHOUND failed to take control of Metal Gear REX and therefore be able to harm the Patriots.

The S3 Plan was an attempt to stage a re-enactment of Shadow Moses, with the intention of proving that people could be controlled through manipulation of information. By resulting in Raiden, a rookie, achieving the same thing as Snake, a decorated veteran, did in the same situation at Shadow Moses, it was a success.

[JP]

Really don't mind that they've removed a lot of the codec contacts in this game. The contacts were there for a reason previously but they aren't really needed in this one.

Act 1:

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Is it possible to side with the PMCs in this too or can it only be the rebels?

[kernow]

no john, only the militia.

about the

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psycho mantis

its probably showing a white pad because its a ps1, not a ps3 dual shock. if you look it shows you the ps1 too

[Uli]

are flashlights just for blinding enemies or is there a way to actually use them as a torch?

[saturn-gamer]

PMC's nanomachines prevent them from seeing you as an ally.

Codec? Good riddance! I hated the codec, hated saving via the codec even more.

[Malc]

are flashlights just for blinding enemies or is there a way to actually use them as a torch?

I asked this question a few pages back, but no one answered. Anyone know?

[NekoFever]

about the

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psycho mantis

its probably showing a white pad because its a ps1, not a ps3 dual shock. if you look it shows you the ps1 too

No, it was definitely a white DS3. I remember seeing the blue text on the top of it and no wire.

[EvilBoris]

Yeah it was a white DS3 for me too.

[Rossco]

PMC's nanomachines prevent them from seeing you as an ally.

Does that mean you could CQC them to grab them then

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Syringe them to remove the nanomachine effect

and therefore they'll see you as an ally? Anyone tried this?

[Eight Rooks]

You'd have thought that would just incapacitate them, i.e.

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rolling around going temporarily insane after their link with the System's cut

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