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    Originally posted by Darwock View Post
    I can't agree with that - Old Snake looks like the old version of the Young Snake face camo... and the Young Snake face camo doesn't look much like MGS3's Naked Snake. Naked Snake had a squarer jaw for one thing.
    You're going about that the long way. There's a far simpler way of looking at it -

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      You'll need to include all the snake variations in that picture for it to be a decent comparison... but I don't think MGS4 snake looks like MGS2 snake either!

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        Good images of Old Snake aren't that easy to come by as most seem based on an earlier character model but here's a decent one -



        This one even seems designed to mirror Naked Snake. Obviously I can't post a pic of the other character in question but I'm sure you can do your own comparison.

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          I just completed the game for the second time. First time for a play through second time for the no kills/no alerts.

          I can finally read this thread without worrying about spoilers.

          The game for me was pure MGS. Long cut scenes, dialogue that makes you cringe, ridiculous twisting plot but it was brilliant!

          Act 4 is fantastic:

          in particular the security camera falling from its mount, reminds you how long ago it was since you played the original MGS. And to get control of Rex was amazing! proves how much cooler Rex is than Ray!



          I sold my 360 and 20 games and bought a PS3 and 3 games and I feel it was worth it for this game. I love MGS and this is an excellent addition to the series.

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            Originally posted by Darwock View Post
            Ever seen 'The Usual Suspects'? Do you rate it as a good movie, or is it pretty much pointless?
            i've seen a few movies, so maybe i have. but what's your point? do you love the game's story and feel like having to defend it? that's fine by me. however, i can tell a good story from a mediocre one and MGS4 belongs to the latter category. for me it's even worse than in MGS2.

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              I am only talking about the ending - you said that the end of the game made everything that happened beforehand pointless... that was just a kind of odd way to criticise a story, as twists and so on have been standard since the entertainment industry began! The Usual Suspects is a perfect example of how story telling can be totally 'pointless' sometimes.

              As for feeling I have to defend it, this is a discussion thread isn't it? I think the story in general is top notch, and a perfect way of tying all the games together. It certainly doesn't break the game like suggested above.
              Last edited by Darwock; 11-07-2008, 23:00.

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                Does anyone know what happens when you let the

                Laughing Octopus

                hug you in her normal form? I didn't dare to let her get close..but I wonder what would've happened.

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                  Does anyone know where to find the

                  dolls you collect in your inventory? I'm going through the game not trying to kill anyone but can't remember if I picked up the frogs statue or not.

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                    you can see them in the plane during cut scenes.
                    upstairs in the kitchen area infront of the tv

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                      Originally posted by warlike View Post
                      Does anyone know what happens when you let the ...

                      By normal do you mean Beauty? if so she hugd you and you get the QTE to waggle the left stick to get out her grasp as your health falls.

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                        Originally posted by winky View Post

                        By normal do you mean Beauty? if so she hugd you and you get the QTE to waggle the left stick to get out her grasp as your health falls.

                        Ah ok thanks! I was kind of hoping that

                        You could do a photoshoot with her

                        as I've heard that's possible..

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                          ^ it is mate just wait for 3 mins after she loses her armour. Just keep running away from her.

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                            Started playing around with the camera now and although it's basic it's still worth having a play with.















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                              Notice the resolution, thats the first thing that was apparent to me hehe.

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                                Got this last night

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