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    #31
    Now 20 hours in and I've moved on another 3 years ( did a year, then another 3 and another 3 have gone by)....and the game is still the same....the end of the 2nd act i honestly thought it was gonna pick up big style but after a certain boss it brings you back to the same old city doing the same old fetch/kill missions again....

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      #32
      So i just finished at around 24 hours.....compare this to the 47 hours it took me to complete DA for the 1st time, 24 hours is pretty disappointing.

      Ending was ok, good last fights and the end of course was left pretty much open for DLC/Expansion. I was quite surprised the amount of choices it gave you towards the end actually, a second i will do a second play through, i think its just gonna be a struggle going through those mediocre first 20 hours for the last great 4 - 5 hours.....

      Really hoping an expansion will come out like Awakening and change a few things. Overall it was good i enjoyed it, its just nowhere near as good as the 1st one.

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        #33
        24 hours????

        I had past that mark during my first year.

        Did you literally avoid any and all side quests? That's the thing with the sequel, Bioware stated that this game places a lot more emphasis on side quests this time around with a shorter main story.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Daragon View Post
          24 hours????

          I had past that mark during my first year.

          Did you literally avoid any and all side quests? That's the thing with the sequel, Bioware stated that this game places a lot more emphasis on side quests this time around with a shorter main story.
          I did pretty much everything. Did every side quest i found, did all my companion quests too.
          Last edited by NeoDragoN; 14-03-2011, 18:50.

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            #35
            Wow...

            I managed over 80 hours for my first playthrough of Origins too.

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              #36
              24 hours is incredibly short for an RPG

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                #37
                Originally posted by Daragon View Post
                Wow...

                I managed over 80 hours for my first playthrough of Origins too.
                No offense but what the hell were you doing for 80 hours? lol

                Just looked on the Bioware forums most people are clocking up around 22 - 30 hours on this, its a shame when they have to shorten the games so much, i wouldn't have minded if those 24 hours were all amazing, but 20 of them were average at best, only the last 4 hours were really good and then they weren't as good as most bits in DA.

                The whole game feels so small in scale compared to DA. In DA you were saving the world from the Blight, you are aGrey Warden! In 2 you are just a guy whos family comes to a town and does well for himself killing people on the way up....

                The ending suggested something huge, i just wish they had let you experience that instead of stopping as it was just getting good.
                Last edited by NeoDragoN; 14-03-2011, 19:24.

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                  #38
                  What was I doing for 80 hours?

                  I was enjoying the game.

                  I don't know how I clocked over 80 hours, I seem to just really appreciate RPGs far more than other games.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Daragon View Post
                    What was I doing for 80 hours?

                    I was enjoying the game.

                    I don't know how I clocked over 80 hours, I seem to just really appreciate RPGs far more than other games.
                    What do you consider enjoying the game? Wandering around aimlessly? Because there wasn't enough content in the 1st game for 80 hours.

                    What exactly were you appreciating?

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                      #40
                      Lot of text in the first one, if you're not as fast a reader it'll take you longer.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by NeoDragoN View Post
                        What do you consider enjoying the game? Wandering around aimlessly? Because there wasn't enough content in the 1st game for 80 hours.

                        What exactly were you appreciating?
                        There was plenty if you were into the lore. You found all the codex entries I'm assuming.

                        I think I even skipped some of it and still managed an 80 hour play through. It's not like it's an unobtainable length of time to be playing it for, a lot of people have reported similar times on Bioware's website.

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                          #42
                          I have this game sitting on my shelf waiting to be played but from everything I have read on here and other forums Im thinking of taking it back. What I can't understand is how can PC Gamer score this game 95% and then Edge/GamesTM give it a 6. How can these scores very so much, even reading the Edge review it sounds like they should have scored it a lot less, very little good to say about it. How can one mag score it so high and praise it so much, then another Mag score it so low? Is it that the PC game is very different to the console version? I don't normally listen to other people and just go with my own judgement, and I did enjoy the fighting in the demo but the rest of the game sounds just crap quite frankly, it really sounds so very disappointing as I have really been looking forward to this and really want to try it but I don't want to waste £40 finding out it really is not very good. Is it more of a rent then a buy?

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                            #43
                            Beaten it. 29 hours and change, did pretty much everything bar two side quests that required fighting fairly hard bosses.

                            Loved it. Great stuff. A better game than the first in just about every way. Origins was mediocrity epitomised from start to finish, concentrating on the boring or plain embarassing aspects of one of the most generic fantasy worlds going, with annoying, vacant, one-dimensional characters and broken combat. 2 has some nasty, nasty flaws - it's obviously rushed, with some horribly lazy design decisions and for the most part it's still far too easy with a warrior and at least two mages - but it's got some absolutely brilliant characters, a proper story for once, blisteringly fast combat that's actually fun to play, much more of a sense of immersion in the world (more doing, rather than reading endless bloody documents and never seeing any of what they tell you about), much less stupid comic relief, much less black and white morals...

                            It's a very hard game to rate, because it has KOTOR II all over it. They really, really needed more time with this, and I can't understand how they figured they'd get away with some of this corner-cutting. But it improves on so much of what was awful about the first - broken combat, far too much telling over showing, mediocre characters and storytelling - I can't deny I just had a hell of a ride.

                            It's not as great a game as Bioshock 2, but it's the same sort of feeling all over again. I hope Bioware ignore the backlash they're getting (well, most of it) because if they keep on in this direction ME3 and DA3 are both set to make me very happy indeed.

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                              #44
                              Wait, you thought the FIRST game had mediocre characters? Blimey.

                              I've yet to give a **** about any of my party members this time around and I really took a shine to Alistair and Morrigan with their in-party bickering in the original.

                              It's a real shame that I don't see Bioware returning to a game based around the Origins group - a 3rd game will probably feature more of snooze fest Hawke or even yet another new character who has just as much appeal as observing paint dry.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Eight Rooks View Post
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                                Wow, you've some interesting views to say the least. As far as I can tell, combat is pretty much the same in this, just sped up a lot. I agree it does feel nicer, but as a mage you don't feel as powerful, it's not as easy to cover the battlefield with big area of effect spells. I remember in the first game hardly ever using a standard attack as the mage, I was always using an ability or spell so I had to pump lots of points into willpower. In DA2 I don't think I've ever even drunk a mana potion.

                                Also, I've not finished the game yet, but how can you prefer the story of DA2? I get the feeling I'm about 2 thirds through the game, and nothing at all has happened. There's no urgency to any of my actions, I don't need to rush to get people to join my army or anything. Don't get me wrong, I like the story in DA2, but it doesn't have the scope of the first. And I disagree about the characters too. Alistair, Morrigan, Wynne and even Shale were all great party members. Who do you have to compare in DA2? Fenris?

                                Also the game is so obviously rushed. Nothing has the care and detail that was put into origins. I'm really getting pretty sick of the same 5 maps being re-used over and over again, and I doubt the world map is going to open up this late in the game.

                                Anyhow, that sounds like a negative post, but I am really enjoying DA2. So far I just like the first a lot more.

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