Halo and Halo 2 to be 'improved' for the 360?

[Concept]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=61397

http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=weeklyupdateoct21&p=5117012

My bet is on Halo 2's cutscene pop-up and abrupt level of detail changes being fixed, and on progressive support being added for both games.

[bash]

Arent they talking about if you just pop in the Halo 1/2 discs into the 360? Or are these new releases? How can they change pop ups and detail, I thought these were 'the game' as opposed to 'the hardware' . .

[Concept]

I'm guessing Xbox Live will update the games if you possess a system with a harddrive. That's one possible way.

Bungie could have left Halo 2's engine updatable through Xbox Live for a future time when they knew the 360 was going to come. If you read Bungie's update, it does suggest the games will look different.

[EvilBoris]

Progressive support are in the games already. If anything I'd imagine it be Full anti aliasing or if the 360 is really clever, 720p support. BUt I would of thought the latter would of caused syncing problems on xbox live?

[Simmy]

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Come on Bungie

[El Leone]

Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op Live co-op

Come on Bungie

Asking for a bit too much mate .

I reckon what we'll get is, (for halo 2) the level of detail and pop up issue to be fixed (as that was always a problem with the actual hardware not being able to read data fast enough), some AA, 720 P.

Apparantly they've been working on the halo 2 emulation for 6 months, so you know.

[Concept]

Bungie's update said both games will look better, so that's what I'm banking on too. They failed to mention changes to the gameplay, and I'd imagine they'd be busy on Halo 3 to properly implement co-op in Halo 2.

I'd love to be proved wrong though.

Halo 2 would really benefit from an extra (stable) layer of polish though. The LoD /cutscene pop-up changes made the game look uncharacteristically rough (in places) compared to Halo.

[Soi]

Progressive support are in the games already. If anything I'd imagine it be Full anti aliasing or if the 360 is really clever, 720p support. BUt I would of thought the latter would of caused syncing problems on xbox live?

Why do you think 720p would causde Live syncing problems? 50hz and 60hz players can play happily together, so it is clear that whatever is displayed to the player, the net code is clever enough to work everything out.

I'm with you on Full AA though -much more likely than adding any new content. I think it will be like those smoothing filters you get on MAME. Coupled with prog scan, Both games could look very good.

I'd also like them fixing the widescreen mode in H2. The fact that the HUD and cross hair is stretched (with the game properly in 16:9) really bugs me. So much so that I play in 4:3.

[Simmy]

Asking for a bit too much mate .

I reckon what we'll get is, (for halo 2) the level of detail and pop up issue to be fixed (as that was always a problem with the actual hardware not being able to read data fast enough), some AA, 720 P.

Apparantly they've been working on the halo 2 emulation for 6 months, so you know.

Guess I'm just hoping they have learnt how to do it successfully with Kameo and PDZ and can therefore impliment it into Halo 1 and 2. I know I'm stretching, but while there's hope and all that.......

[El Leone]

Well, I doubt we'll see it as they wont have touched the game code, just optimising it.

Maybe in halo 3 we'll get to have online co op.
and 60 fps

[Simmy]

Well, I doubt we'll see it as they wont have touched the game code, just optimising it.

Maybe in halo 3 we'll get to have online co op.
and 60 fps

Just let me dream man for god sake

[gibbon]

Just let me dream man for god sake

I think its a definite possibility. I cant remeber exactly but the menu's are set up in a way to give you the impression you can do online co op. My take on that was it was an aim and was taken out at the last minute but the menu layout remained unchanged. Wouldn't be too much of a stretch for them to put it back in if time was the only factor.

[Simmy]

I think its a definite possibility. I cant remeber exactly but the menu's are set up in a way to give you the impression you can do online co op. My take on that was it was an aim and was taken out at the last minute but the menu layout remained unchanged. Wouldn't be too much of a stretch for them to put it back in if time was the only factor.

Yeah I noticed that, its on the custom game menu, it says somthing like switch to online co-op. I've been told though that the option just boots you out of live and into campaign ! From the Halo 2 bonus disk though it seemed that they technically could not get online co-op to work as they would want it to on xbox and therefore left it out. I presume that the 360 has some how got over those technical problems though, with games like Kameo having online co-op as a feature, and therefore should allow it in Halo !

[Kevvy Metal]

Honestly that Frankie guy who writes the weekly updates is a **** talking fool. I read the updates every week for over a year and he truely talks nonsence "You can fit all of Halo into one of Halo 2' s level" i think he once said.

The different will probably be that the 360 has a much better Video Output. Full Stop.

[jimmbob]

Honestly that Frankie guy who writes the weekly updates is a **** talking fool.

Amen to that.
"Bungie/Microsoft in talking **** shocker!"