Sonic 3D or 2D?

[Ouenben]

After having a argument with one of my online friends I was wondering what people prefer? Or when they saw sonic series at it's worst etc.


Do you prefer Sonic as 2D?
Do you prefer Sonic in 3D?
Or do you prefer No sonic?

I found that Sonic Adventure 1 was great, the added story really gave the series a boost, not to mention great graphics which still look good today and some fun levels.
Sonic adventure 2 is where they went downhill IMO... Shadow is one of the worst characters ever and I'm tired of 5 new characters for every game, I prefer just the main bunch - Sonic, knuckles, Tails, Eggman, Amy and metal sonic.
Sonic adventure 2 wasn't fun for me due to the level after level, no wondering around like in SA1, the shooting levels sucked and not to mention the craptacular emerald hunts from SA1.

Sonic heroes was just poor and boring, Shadow the hedghog I shouldnt have to explain and Sonic riders was a cheap & poor cash in.

I would love the series to go back to the roots of 2D or if it must stay 3D to keep it simple and only have one storyline and roaming around and fun levels.
Also no shooting levels or emerald hunts.
I enjoyed the 2D Sonic so much, but the missing story made me feel like it wasnt complete.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles was the closest we got with a long adventure, appearences from knuckles and little scenes where something happened.

[Baseley09]

Sonic is a 2D game & franchise that's been shoehorned into the 3d age.

But make no mistake I love Sonic Adventure, great great much.

[eastyy]

i prefered the 2d games the 3d it just lost something for me

Perhaps it was in the 3d games they were trying to set it more in the real world that i did not like or that in many parts of the game it feels like you do not really have any control it just puts you into automatic pilot mode

Also sonic adventures is one of the few console games where i have encountered nasty bugs to

[muse hunter]

i'm probably alone in thinking that sonic adventure was the best sonic game so far followed by sonic cd and the original. The problem is that sega are trying to make sonic look cool and hip and thus his games have lost that charm. Its nothing to do with sonic games not working in 3D sonic adventure did it perfectly well, its more down to the people creating the games and sega themselves, they need to get rid of these horrible side kicks and their attempt to make sonic look cool to a new generation of kids. People have big hopes for the 360 sonic game but when i saw a in game clip of dark sonic driving a pimped out car my heart sank, maybe sonic wii could bring some faith back into the franchise but i doubt it, sonic died a long time ago.

[eastyy]

So its like sonic has been EAfied then


I do agree though you would have thought after shadow the hedgehog they would have got the message

[Team Andromeda]

I loved SONIC Adv in parts more than MARIO 64 , with a bit more polish it would have been better imo. The rest of his 3D outtings have been pretty dire.
2D wise only SONIC CD came close to Mario, but that was miles off Mario IV .
But in parts Sonic Adv was everybit as good as Mario and in some cases better .
Windy Valley, Lost World, Speed Highway are some the best times I've hand in any platform game.

[Team Andromeda]

So its like sonic has been EAfied then


I do agree though you would have thought after shadow the hedgehog they would have got the message

To say the Truth Mario isn't much better.
Its spin off Luigi was utter cr8p (just like Shadow) and Mario Sunshine is a sad excuse for a Mario game, and one of the biggest gamming letdowns ever Mario Double Dash was utter sh8t too while I'm at it

So the Mario Team have a lot to prove too , becasue after a amazing 1st 3D adventure , the others have been letdowns much like the Sonic

[Ouenben]

Ideas for new Sonic game if it's 3D:

NO Shadow
Limited amount of characters
NO Emerald hunts
NO shooting levels
Fast paced, running levels, but not so much that you just hold up and wait 5 mins.
NO over complicated story line
NO Crappy kids voices for the characters
Similar Roaming world like SA1. Maybe a bit bigger.
NO Shadow! Just to be sure
NO 3 year old rabbits that sound like a little girl on helium
NO oversized bat boobs
NO radical/groovy music... just good old Sonic tunes

[Rep]

NO radical/groovy music... just good old Sonic tunes

Are those not the same thing

[Ouenben]

To say the Truth Mario isn't much better.
Its spin off Luigi was utter cr8p (just like Shadow) and Mario Sunshine is a sad excuse for a Mario game, and one of the biggest gamming letdowns ever Mario Double Dash was utter sh8t too while I'm at it

So the Mario Team have a lot to prove too , becasue after a amazing 1st 3D adventure , the others have been letdowns much like the Sonic

Nah Sunshine is still enjoyable, Fludd was annoying but not as bad as Shadow + Guns. Not by a mile.
Lots of people found Luigis mansion a fun charmy game, me included. It's far from crap and 1000 times better than shadow the hedgehog.
Mario kart double dash wasnt great but it's far from the likes of Sonic Riders and Crazy frog racer.

[Ouenben]

Are those not the same thing

Radical/Groovy as in EA trax.....
Old sonic tunes like green hill zone on Sonic the hedgehog or Toot Toot sonic warrior. Maybe even some of the cheesy songs from Sonic R.



Im not alone on thinking a good Sonic game must absolutely NOT Contain shadow am I?

[erhgiez]

A 3D sonic with 2D game play like sonic rush is what they should be doing.

[Rep]

Radical/Groovy as in EA trax.....
Old sonic tunes like green hill zone on Sonic the hedgehog or Toot Toot sonic warrior. Maybe even some of the cheesy songs from Sonic R.



Im not alone on thinking a good Sonic game must absolutely NOT Contain shadow am I?

Sorry perhaps i'm missing your point but for me the Soundtrack of each Sonic game is outstanding not matter how poor the gameplay has become. I could probably make a list from each recent game, songs such as the second to last boss fight in SA2, Final Fortress in Heroes and just about every inch of Rush to name a couple.

There's nothing wrong with Shadow at all, it's just Sega trying to create his own back story etc. His running is pretty cool.

[Ouenben]

Sorry perhaps i'm missing your point but for me the Soundtrack of each Sonic game is outstanding not matter how poor the gameplay has become. I could probably make a list from each recent game, songs such as the second to last boss fight in SA2, Final Fortress in Heroes and just about every inch of Rush to name a couple.

There's nothing wrong with Shadow at all, it's just Sega trying to create his own back story etc. His running is pretty cool.

thing is I couldnt be bothered getting to the last levels in Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic heroes coz I thought they were so bad

[Team Andromeda]

Nah Sunshine is still enjoyable, Fludd was annoying but not as bad as Shadow + Guns. Not by a mile.
Lots of people found Luigis mansion a fun charmy game, me included. It's far from crap and 1000 times better than shadow the hedgehog.
Mario kart double dash wasnt great but it's far from the likes of Sonic Riders and Crazy frog racer.

Oh Shadow was utter sh8t , but Sonic Adv II did have its moments (Shadow and Sonic Levels)

Up to 20 stars Sunshine was ace, after that it went down hill and hands down the worst Mario game I ever played in the end I just gave up after 50 stars. Luigi was like RARE's GBTG , a nice graphics demo but that's it .
And Sonic Riders while only decent is a million times better that the pants fest that was Doube Dash .

Now you can call me a NCL basher all you want , But a Mario hater I'm not and the last good Mario game I played on a home system was Mario Kart 64 . So to me the Mario Team have just to much to prove as the Sonic Team